Sorry, China needs a mid-sized Stealthy Strike Fighter. Which, it can mass produce for both the domestic market (PLAAF and PLAN) and EXPORT. To do that they must produce them in great numbers. In order to make them “affordable”. Has nothing to do with US vs Chinese Military Doctrine….:rolleyes:

Why does China need an aircraft like J-31? Does it have same doctrine as US with power projection and strike? China goals are regional.

Nor, does China see the J-31 as a “lower priority”. That is totally false as the program is critical to the future of the PLA. As I have said before the J-31 will be the “cornerstone” of the future PLAAF and PLAN Fighter Fleet.

The J-20 (like the Su-57) will never be produced in vast numbers. Just to expensive and hardly suited for the role. (Multi-Mission)

There is NOTHING so far saying J-31 is critical to PLA. All you showed is it got some government funding, but the progress is much slower than J-20.

Russia won’t get J-31, deal with it.

Odds are Turkey will not leave the F-35 Program and will not get the S-400. Just watch and see……

Odds are Turkey will not get F-35. Congress already blocked F-35 delivery.

Also, all the USAF projects are WAY off topic. Put them in USAF thread, not here.

Avic’s J-31 Fighter Is a Winner After All

Nov 9, 2018 Bradley Perrett and Steve Trimble | Aviation Week & Space Technology

Not long after the J-31 fighter prototype from Avic’s Shenyang Aircraft Corp. appeared in 2012, analysts realized that it was not, after all, a new combat aircraft for the Chinese military. It was just a technology demonstrator from a well-resourced but frustrated state company that had lost two air force fighter competitions in a row. Now the J-31 has indeed become a government-funded project, apparently rescued by the shortcomings of the J-15, a naval Flanker derivative also built …

Because Shenyang LOST to Chengdu. J-31 support is lukewarm at best and mainly because J-15 is having trouble.

Are you Corsaid1963 on f-16.net? Because no one, not even people on f-16.net are taking your J-31 theory seriously.

[USER=”55194″]RadDisconnect[/USER] are you comparing the Al-41 on the su-57 having same range as al-31 on su-27?

Both Su-57 and Su-27 have range around 3,500 km, and Su-57 has more fuel. So izd.30 can sacrifice some SFC compared to AL-31 to get better performance in other areas.

Probably… though I’m not really sure if [USER=”1416″]Scooter[/USER]’s obsession with a Russian “J-31” is just his idea of a running gag…
Or maybe in his F-35-uber-alles world the F-35 is the bestest, cheapest super fighter for everyone. If your air force for whatever reason can’t be part of the illustrious F-35 circle, the only viable alternative is “J-31”. Because it looks similar to an F-35. :very_drunk:

J-31 in quotes because obviously no such thing actually exists.
Maybe – probably – one day China will have another VLO fighter besides the J-20. Russian AF will not have the same type.

Good point. There is so much more development uncertainty for J-31 and the project isn’t even fully backed by PLAAF/PLAN.

Nope and Flateric @ Secret Projects has stated it doesn’t. Considering his track record, I’ll defer to him.

Yeah, flateric knows his stuff.

Russian air force won’t need J-31. Not even PLAAF or PLAN are fully backing it, it’s a Shenyang project. Scooter, get out of your F-35 centric thinking and realize maybe there are different doctrines that don’t operate the way US operate? For all troubles Su-57 is having, it’s much more developed than J-31 is.

Nope, too big to be a MiG-21 center-line drop tank. More likely to be a F-16 drop tank as seen here on a PAF F-16. Also fin-less.

The weld lines very clearly don’t match.

Can we please do the most basic checking before posting more pictures as evidence? This is the third time people use MiG-21 wreckage as F-16 it’s getting annoying. You’re also tanking your own credibility.