Argentina is effectively going from zero capability to massive offensive capability.

Eastern weapons may be cheap, but they still cost tens of billions of dollars which Argentina does not have and which given they’re an economic basket case they cannot do.

And then there’s capability building – training, tactics development etc. It takes a couple of years for a fighter squadron to be fully operational even if all aircraft are delivered on day 1. It also takes a long time to train a ship’s crew.

Delivery of aircraft and ships takes a long time, even for Eastern Equipment. E.g. Vietnamese Gepard class firgates – first laid down 2007, launched 2010 and commissioned 2011. So even if Argentina ordered all this equipment, it would not be operational until at least 2017 and even then that’s basic operational capability only.

You’re probably looking at 2020 for full operational capability.

Unless they’re aiming for some 1940s conscript concept by flooding skies and seas with cheap equipment operated by poorly trained crews. This didn’t even work for the Russians in WWII who by 1944 were suffering massive man power shortages due to extremely high casualties.

Well, JF-17 costs about 25 Million bucks a piece and that works out, with 1 billion, you can buy 40 jets, well enough to counter 4 typhoons on the island. Another 4 ZDK AWACSs could cost less than 1 billion, and there’re numbers for S-300 systems, Based on these figures, I’m not sure how the sum of tens of billions comes from.

To keep the system simple also can facilitate the speed delivery, in 3 years, Pakistan has assembled and delivered near 50 JF-17s from ground zero, and 2 full squadrons of JF-17 is combat ready, the 3rd is coming… Meanwhile, within the same period, 4 Y-8 AWACS platforms were produced in China and delivered to PAF. CAC has delivered dozens of J-7s to various customers in just 2-4 years� time, I don’t think there will be bottlenect for delivery and training, anyway, the JF-17 is designed to replace Mirage F1/ F-5 etc, so, additional training will be minimum.

The tactics involved is more asymmetric, which is firing at distance to destroy the land or sea targets. Although small numbers of fighters piloted by elites will be in air-superior load for CAP

Tomahawk attack is a direct attack of Argentine territory.

if EF2000 direcly threats your airborne sensors, then your SAMs need to protect those sensors.

Mathematics works equally for both sides, if the one side wants to take back the claimed territory, there should be certain amount the side needs to consider, and the other side will have to fetch out even more amount from the pocket, as the island is so far away and weapons from Russia and China are substantially cheap than their western ones, furthermore, the system considered are most cost effective to take the geo-advantages.

F35’s IOC is 2017, but I’m not sure about the F35B’s, and when can the Brits acquire, it could well behind the induction of J21(J31)

If I were to build Argentine Military aviation, firstly, to have SAMs like S-300/HQ-9 to protect my critical air defense key nodes, then, In a modern warfare, AWACs is the indispensible asset, a ZDK-03 AWACs currently in service in PAF would be a cost effective candidate.

Several MPAs would be a welcome accomplishment to give additional SA on the surface and below.

Once this backbone is formed, a punch force consist of fighters/strikers will be considered, based on compatibility to the backbone system, as well as cost/A2A/A2G etc.

FC-1/JF-17 to be a single engined platform, low cost to procure, maintain & operate, its payload includes subsonic C802A with 200km+ anti-ship range, hypersonic CM-400AKG with near 300kms range for both anti-ship and anti-ground attack. The beauty of long range standoff is your frontline platform needs not engage hostile more superior interceptors, while your AWACS/MPA operating conformably in your SAM’s zone could provide detection/tracking via datalink and offboard guidance to the A2G missiles launched from those strikers. And furthermore, those A2G missiles could utilize Baidou signals in near future, should the Yanks shut off the GPS in that area.

An island could not provide the strategic depth as what the mainland does, therefore, should the likes of CM-400AKG knock out the ground key positions on the island, a superior enemy fighter based on island will have little chance in either challenging your fighter or striking your assets. A symmetrical but expensive air-superior fighter like Su35 for Argentina may not be necessary at all.

But once J-21 (Aka J-31) is available for export, it could interest Argentina, considering not long ago, Argentine defense minister inquired on PLA’s J-20. J-21 (Aka J-31) likely to share the same FC-1/JF-17 powerplant, so that reduces maintenance.

Any proof that this is in fact a 3D printed part? For all the evidence to the contrary on those photos it could just as well be a perfectly conventional, milled bulkhead (yeah, the tool paths could simply be from machine finishing the near-net-shape printed part, but as I said nothing anybody has shown so far makes that conclusion inevitable). What does the placard actually say, can somebody translate?

Well, certainly plumberunion did a great translation on the PLACARD, and for a good translation on other background of this exhibition, which officially revealed many information on China’s 3D printing used for aviation. below is a report:

http://www.3ders.org/articles/20130529-china-shows-off-world-largest-3d-printed-titanium-fighter-component.html

China shows off world largest 3D printed titanium fighter component

May.29, 2013

At the 16th China International High-tech Expo which took place during May 21-26, 2013 in Beijing, AVIC Laser, a subsidiary of AVIC Heavy Machinery, showed off the world’s largest titanium aircraft critical component produced using 3D Laser Direct Manufacturing technology.

AVIC Laser displayed, for the first time, a large 3D printed titanium part for J-20 or J-31 stealth fighter. According to AVIC Laser, their 3D Laser Direct Manufacturing technology has been used in producing 7 kinds of aircraft, including Y-20 Strategic Airlifter, J-15 carrier-borne fighter, C919 airliner and next generation stealth fighters. The J-15’s chief designer confirmed in March that printable components are being used “in major load-bearing parts, including the [J-15’s] front landing gear.”

AVIC Laser was established in 2000. Funded by Chinese government, especially the military, the team has solved several technical difficulties during the first seven years’ research and development of the technology, such as “inert gas protection system”, “defect control”, “metal lattice growth control” etc. On Jan.18, 2013 AVIC Laser won the national technology invention award in Beijing.

The 3D Laser Direct Manufacturing technology could lower the cost of titanium parts to only 5 percent of the original. It costs about 25 million yuan ($4m) to process one ton titanium alloy complex structural parts using traditional method, but with 3D Laser Direct Manufacturing it costs only 1.3 million ($212k).

Currently AVIC Laser’s 3D Laser Direct Manufacturing technology can be used to make large structural parts using titanium alloy, high-strength steel, high temperature & high strength steel. Compared with conventional processes, this technology could save up to 90% of materials and costs. And if the forged titanium parts on an American F-22 were made using the Chinese 3D printing technology, around 40 percent of the weight can be reduced.

It’s not only military planes that will benefit from this, the Northwestern Polytechnical University of China has also used the same technology to print out a five meter-long titanium wing beam for the C919 passenger plane which is expected to be put into commercial operation in 2016.

Are these parts of the J-21/31 ?

http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/read.php?tid=883091

Deino

hallelujah!

3D print-out of Titanium whole piece,

Some say J16’s certain Ti parts are fabricated in such a fast way

Congratulations, another remarkable achievement of the chinese aerospace industry. Perhaps this will be the chinese decade in aviation ? ( Y-20, J-20, J-21 and others, Z-10 and other helos, UCAVs etc etc.:)

Obviously u forget to count in ” Z-20″, a Chinese “black Hawke” equivalent, slated to have its maiden flight this year, another big event after “Y20’s”

Is Falklands a French name? Obviously not, then Britons will help Argentina in order to get the naming title correct, case close. Lol

We are ofc assuming all the characteristics so far stated are reality, but they are not unachievable I guess. The missile basically has similar performance to the Kh-15.
I still maintain it is an outdated attack profile- the only way it will achieves 100+km range is high altitude launch, which is dangerous for the carrier aircraft, while the attack path is a mostly likely a simple ballistic descent.
Like I said, it functions like a Kh-22, just with less range.
Seems like a descent weapon all around though, would like to see more concrete info about it.

Currently using handphone, not be able to properly quote n reply.

1. Hypersonic vehicle is the future of attack, otherwise you won’t see Yanks putting so much effort into hv researchs like X-51a, adopting zenith approach profile like what cm400akg does, and not sea skimming. China obviously has its own hv project ongoing, and from recent news that JH7b commissioned in order to carry one particular new type of missile, the new missile is said to be YJ-12, a
Hypersonic missile whose range not restricted by missile export control. Now, u may understand why an export version like cm400akg with 240km range, thouy it’s quite decent for a standoff role and versatile in mission n platform choices.