Hong Kong media:
5 test flight pilots died while a team of electronic experts lost when the military transporter crashed yesterday.
Grieve condolence to the families whose dear numbers were lost, it’s a sad day for China’s military aviation.
Big losing!! 😡
Wait n see what the impact is on Chinese Y-8 AEWs
400 only? Much more than that… I can assure you~ 😉 😀
To be honest, the widely circulated data of WS10A actually is from the table created by maya, Yes he produced the below table in his War-Sky website, and this table is widely being quoted.
Based on the table, max dry thrust of WS10A is 7100 DaN
You are wrong Japan at this moment is testing the XF-7 new jet engine totally designed in Japan and also has the T-4`s engine
Ukraine is building engines to power the Yak-130 and the new An-124 that just reopened production for Russia and Ukraine, several Antonovs use Ukrainian built engines.
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Well, well flogger, nice to see u again the XF-7 new jet engine is nice but Isn’t it currently still under test? How come you compare a non-certificated airliner engine to the certificated fighter engine already in production then draw your marks saying who at most is on par with who?
The WS10A takes a lot of references to CFM56 commercial airliner engine, agree? If Chinese could work out such an airliner engine core to something sophisticated enough to power highly agile Su27, then it should be easier for them to work out XF-7 grade WS10 variant that can power Transport plane or so.
The WS-9 developed by Chinese is based on Spey 202, contrary to the Japanese copy of F100, the WS9 is made on 100% locally sourced components, no single bolt or nail relying on Britons.
Then in the Fighter area, let’s compare the turbofan Engines developed by Japan & China:
——————————China————————-Japan
13000kg T/W 7-8 grade:——-WS10A————————F100-IHI
9000 Kg T/W8 Grade:———WS13(under-develop)————-?
9000Kg grade:—————–WS-9
Middle Thrust T/W 10 Grade:—–CJ2000 Core Engine————- ?
———————————( Ignited in April 2005)
Small turbofan for missiles:——WS-500————————–?
Hi, welcome, Maya, Are you the one with the same name Maya, who is being active for a long time in the Chinese military forums? :confused: 😉
Yes, I have to admit that how to tell apart the 10A & 10 remains disputable though I would keep your opinion in view. 😉
BTW, here’s the international water whose turbulence won’t only be solved by raw facts and frank truth, do watch out, don’t expect the same cozy back in China. 😀
Guys, Time for the VOICE OF HAWKS”
Ground test, BTW, at that time, it’s still not called 10A but FWS10, FWS10A is after the liming re-activate the project in 21 century
where are IHI from Japan?
:confused: China is at the level of Japan not of England or France in Engine technology and even Ukraine has more complex technology the vast majority of engines made in China are licensed built derivatives with a few examples of engines made domestically in fact the Kunlun was the First engine made in China the rest are basicly copies, and the WS-10 still has foreign input 😉
No, Japanese yet to show to others where their 100% home made Turbofan fighter engine is. The IHI F100 is still counting on 30-50% of components shipped from his Uncle Sam
Here is 1 thread I opened some time back maybe useful FYI.
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=49067&highlight=WS10a
The Chinese official media put the overall development of WS10A (Taihan ) at a span of 18 years. As it finished certification in 2005, the project started in 1987.
The Janes report nothing new to the Chinese who can access vast Chinese media reports, especially there are tons of info on the AVIC1 official website only if you know how to read between the lines.
I still remember the accident which the WS10 exploded on the testbed happened sometime from 1994-1997 that lead to CAC finally adopt AL31FN as the powerplant for the J10, whose 1st prototype flied the following year.
The 2004 incident caused the WS10A delayed for 1 year to enter service.
Currently there are more Turbofan projects in China running much smoothly thanks to the largely improved overall national strength of China compared to early 1990s and 1980s.
Do You know WHY the C-17 visited Chengdu ????
Deino
En-route to your homeland for the airshow
USAF C-17 Mega plane in Chengdu–home to the J10 and FC-1 fighter jets


http://www.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/060516-f-9456c-%20166.jpg
http://www.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/060516-f-9456c-%20198.JPG
Here we go. This is an early schematic of the J-10’s hardpoint. It was posted circa 1999/2000. There were a lot of doubt as to whether the schema was correct because we did not see the hardpoints on the main fuselage (the pair behind the inlet and another pair near the rear.)
The inlet hardpoints are proven by this picture and a fuzzier earlier one. The rear hardpoints have not been verified yet.
Some more detailed Pictures 🙂
Looks just cool…
Some more screenshots