+ Brimstone and Stormshadow
Those are planned though. As far as I know there’s no current road map for an ARM though.
See, if Gripen is seen too close to Tejas then the next logical line must be :-“Tejas must be the MRCA”, instead of “Don’t select Gripen, and choose from the remaining 5”.
Reverse logic. The logical conclusion from that would be that the Tejas would not be suited for MMRCA either.
F35b – What other weapon do you need integrated to the Typhoon?
An ARM would be nice. HARM or ALARM aren’t integrated yet, and would be a nice asset for increasingly mobile SAMs.
Don’t know where they got it from but 2012? no way… My estimate would be 2016–>
Yeah, I’d expect something more in the 2015-2018 ballpark as well. I’d also love to know how comprehensive their next-gen software package is planned to be.
It made sense to you even when it’s not true ? OK….
Are you intentionally misreading? Of course explanations can make sense without being true.
If someone arrives too late at a meeting, I could for example wager the guess that he’s been held up in traffic. That’s a possible explanation that makes sense. It could be untrue though, if the person arrived too late because he overslept. Or missed his train. Or forgot the meeting.
Now please tell me that none of these make sense because they can’t all be true at the same time. :rolleyes:
But how would industrial offsets fit in with putting Israeli equipment on a Swedish aircraft sold to India? The offsets required have to be in India, not Israel.
Perhaps indirect offsets by virtue of the Israeli components sourcing Indian parts?
Not saying that the situation presents itself like that exactly, but that was the take on it that made the most sense to me. Whether it’s true, I don’t know.
This story is very fishy. SAAB-Ericsson has been making top-notch EW suites for many years, much longer than IAI, & has no need of one from IAI.
I think the issue is with industrial offsets and cooperation as required by the RFP here, not Saab’s ability to do things by themselves.
What the guy said was : “It is the most advanced fighter in the world”. If F 22> anything else, I can safely say F 22 > EF…:diablo:
A s I said, I prefer to consider the oficial (declassified) documents from the EF offer. The official figure is 1.2M with internal fuel and 6 AAMs.
Which document is that? Got a link handy?
What you refer to is this unconfirmed report:
http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/modern/f-22-vs-12344-9.html#post351443
Right, that was it. During the reunion seven Typhoons from RAF XI Squadron should have been there for the austere A-G package testing for three weeks. How much experience any of the pilots had facing the F-22 is unknown.
The reason for the 8g service limit is to avoid most G-Locks (those caused by rapid G building).
I thought G-Loc comes from sustained G forces.
I once found this interesting diagram on the net, where G forces where plotted against duration before unconsciousness sets on. Sadly I don’t recall the exact source or where I found it, but I think it was some study done in the US.
Judging by this diagram, the human body can take quite substantial G loads for about 5 seconds, so G onset itself should not be much of a problem. The dangerous part is that at high Gs G-Loc happens suddenly and without the warning of visual symptoms.
That sounds right. I’ll keep looking for the exact quote.
I remember reading that quote and a discussion about it on the defencetalk forums a while back.
It might not of been him. I do recall having seen a Brit saying something along those lines. I’ll have to look and see if I can’t find a link.
I think the Typhoon pilot said something like that the Typhoon has got about the same chance downing an F-22 as a legacy teen fighter has got downing a Typhoon.
Don’t remember whose words exactly those were though.
But clean is an EF with AIM-120 and without drop tank on the same ideal dry day.
I think ‘clean’ is truly clean. Putting anything on it is another configuration. 🙂
But the always quoted 1.22 Mach achieved in Signapore was achieved with a Trainer T1 with center tank, and six rockets and intrims FADEC software, on a hot tropical day in tropical latitudinal and not in Alaska or desert climate like a F-22. Mach is not a fixed speed mark.;)
AFM says M1.21 for Singapore and the article text mentions nothing about loadout.
I enjoyed the video of that Paris performance quite a lot. Very nice to watch and I think the Rafale showed some impressive handling and agility. 🙂
I know it might be much to ask, but could someone transcribe and translate the running commentary?
Since when the EF can do 1.5M in SC ?????
http://www.eurofighter.at/austria/td_lu.asp
“Der hohe Leistungsüberschuss der EJ 200-Triebwerke ermöglicht eine, für den Luftfernkampf in großer Höhe und im Überschallbereich wichtige, hohe Beschleunigung. Auch ohne Nachbrenner-Einsatz ist ein Marschflug mit ca. Mach 1,5 möglich (Supercruise).”
Probably on an ideal day. Its cleverly phrased to possibly make one assume otherwise, but I would still consider this to be in clean configuration.