RUSSIAN AIR FORCE PLANS TO DEVELOP NEW AIRCRAFT
http://www.aviaport.ru/news/2013/05/14/254804.html
Looks like more news confirming a MiG-35 order for the RuAF.
As well as News that a LMFS is in the works. Timeframe being between 2020 – 2025.
I n t e r e s t i n g !!! Thank you very very much, dear Flyboy77!!!
Is here anybody who knows what is:
– ПСЗ
– МАРК
– СВТС
– “Звено-3С“
– “Форвард-М”
– “Форейтор-С”
– “Ястреб”
– ПОСТДВ
– ПМЦВ
???
And relevant info about LMFS, its great! Finally.
looks like a single mig-29 engine in the butt.
this is basically the unmanned stealth jf-17. i bet the PAF wish they waited for this!
No, it is not the “unmanned stealth jf-17”. It is not multirole fighter. It is (may be) only UCAV, moreover experimental.
The only realistic option for Serbia is MiG-29, other aircraft is just a waste of money.
Exactly!
And it seems American teen series to be produced by the end of this decade. Then I think there will be fighter gap in global market if Americans dont fund alternative to F35. I think it is good oppurtunity for KF-X and TF-X projects.
Yes, I think so.
It looks like the stealthized RD-33 ;). Oops, sorry, WS-13:)
Well, youre right about that. Did i say anything that contradict your statement above?
Basically not, my dear colleague. I only reminded the fact, which is quite often forgotten.
France has different needs than Romania, UK has different needs than Finland etc., that is what I meant.
And… not all European countries have 4,5th generation eurocanards – only 9 of them.
Europe doesnt need a new fighter in a long time
There is no European Air Force. There is no common defence policy. There are still sovereign european countries, partners with own air forces and own – coordinated – needs.
It is quite early to talk about future foreign sales of both aircrafts. I belive European producer will boots their market presence with “stealthy” Eurofighter and Rafale derivatives; but Swedens has to stick with gripenNG at least 2-3 decade. But in the end Turkish TF-X can be easily sold to from MidEast to Mid Asian markets; where as KF-X/IF-X could dominate south-east Asia.
I think European aerospace industry powerful enough to market new competetive fighter aircrafts against up-coming “new generation” figters. But if you look back European UAV industry performance, there is a risk even with superior technologlical capabilities, to create useful solutions.
For USA, they will concantrate so called 6th generation fighters. I dont see any cheap alternative of F35.
Stealthy Eurofighter is sci-fi.
It is quite early to talk about future foreign sales of both aircrafts. I belive European producer will boots their market presence with “stealthy” Eurofighter and Rafale derivatives; but Swedens has to stick with gripenNG at least 2-3 decade. But in the end Turkish TF-X can be easily sold to from MidEast to Mid Asian markets; where as KF-X/IF-X could dominate south-east Asia.
I think European aerospace industry powerful enough to market new competetive fighter aircrafts against up-coming “new generation” figters. But if you look back European UAV industry performance, there is a risk even with superior technologlical capabilities, to create useful solutions.
For USA, they will concantrate so called 6th generation fighters. I dont see any cheap alternative of F35.
Its quite early, but we can be sure, that the right people in Sokor/Indonesia and Turkey are thinking about future export perspectives. Market potential is one of the important factors for feasibility study.
Isn’t to early saying anything on KFX/IFX or TFX ? KFX/IFX only manage to finish the first stage of development, and the second stage now being delayed by ROK for at least another 18 mo. TFX, well right now is just a rough design.
Anything can happen on those projects.
Naturally, ananda, its only hypothetical topic. But… may be, Turkey, South Korea and Indonesia are in relatively good economic condition.
F-2 would have been cheap if built at a reasonable rate. Programme unit cost was high mainly because development costs (in themselves, not high – cost control seems to have been good) were spread over very few units, & to a lesser extent because production rate was very low. If enough had been ordered to replace all the F-1s & F-4s one for one, the unit price would have looked a great deal better, & if as many had been ordered as the Typhoon, I think it would have turned out pretty cheap.
That’s one reason. One of the other reasons is very expensive workforce in Japan in 90s and 2000s.
For twin engined model: Eurojet EJ230
For Single Engined: F100-GE-132
It fits, Ocay84!
According to Janes:
MTOW for single engine variant: 50,000 – 60,000 lb
MTOW for twin engine variant: 60,000 – 70,000 lb
http://www.janes.com/products/janes/defence-security-report.aspx?ID=1065979007&channel=defence
Geo
I know it, even at first TuRAF considered F135 engine, to have common things with F35. Because of American un-willigness of American government to use F135 engine other than F35, TurAF turned to F100-GE-132 engines that powers UAE F16 Block60s. Eurojet EJ230 is on the table, I belive if they offer good industrial participation Eurojet can be chosen.
Thank you, my friend. Its as I supposed. Problem with EJ230 is, that this engine is not developed yet. And full R&D will need massive investment. Classical EJ200 would be available without such problems.
For twin engined model: Eurojet EJ230
For Single Engined: F100-GE-132
Its logical, but… do you know, or think it?:)
Yes. Russia needs LMFS.