LMFS contest was not. Twin-engined light fighter MiG (I-2000) lost competition PAK FA.
MiG company offered to the Indians, two variants of light fighters, with one or two engines.
Sukhoi Company has developed the C-56.
These projects gave way to LMFSDrawings – speculation
Are these three drawings based on real skatches or are PURE speculations, Praralay? BTW thanks for it.
As all we know LMFS program has been canceled after evaluating the proposals from the manufacurers. So in my opinion there is such a demand (necessity) and LMFS program shall not be closed forever.
Its new information for me. Was there some competition? Of course, we “know” about “light fifth generation MiGs project”, “MiG 1.24”, “MiG 1.27”, “LFI S-21”, but were they real intended projects for some cmpetition? And… what is “Legkyi Mnogotselvoyi Frontovoy Samoljot”? MiGs proposal or some state program? Honestly I doubt that any one of us knows it.
What??
Sufficient numbers.. what is that?
Who are you to make that call, i suppose you know better than VVS or Russian Minestry of Defence about what is sufficient or not.And why the hell drag Pak-Fa program into this. What ever the numbers of Pak-Fa units, it will be enough for VVS. And then if should also be enough for you, USAF or any other AF for that matter..
As i said the Mig-35 is nothing more than vapor at this moment. And the same is LMFS. Live with it, cause its fact.
Sorry, I only asked, cause I though that you know what is “sufficient number” – if you surely know that there will be no orders of Fulcrums after MiG-29K/KUB for VMF…
Yep and when the last Mig-29K has been delivered to RuN, it will be the last of the Migs 29 famely. No new LMFS for VVS or RuN after this.
Do you know it surely? And could PAK FA replace all MiG-29s, Su-27s and MiG-31s in sufficient numbers?
[QUOTE=haavarla;1995793]Of course not.
While VVS in the second largest AF, it does not require or need any LMFS program. VVS is not USAF, PLAAF or IAF.
The structure of VVS is solid and well ballanced with multiple different jets, each with their own strenghts and niche capability.
Realisticly, LMFS will allways be a nice to have but waay too costly for taste.
Absolutly no reason to drag yet another expensive 5th gen jet into the mix..[/Q:DUOTE]
Right. And one if the “different jets, each with their own strenghts and niche capability” is… MiG-29.
For twin-engine version LMFS want to create a new engine with 10500 kg / 7000 lbs. Such motor developed for the MiG-29m3, it was called the RD-43. To continue work on this engine is not known.
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Klimov goes on in some works. I think interim result is RD-33MKM.
From this great idea will not give up, it can be postponed to a later date.
Multirole fighter superior MiG-29, F-18, Typhoon, Rafale, J-31, J-20 and able to conduct successful combat with the F-35, F-22 and T-50.
It will have great export prospects, especially if the cost of approximately 50% – 60% of the T-50.
Beginning full-scale development of the fighter can be expected after the start of production of T-50, 2015 – 2018. First flight of 2020 – 2023. Series production of 2027 – 2030.
Developer – United Aircraft Corporation (ОАК)
Agree. There is more reasons for “LMFS” development:
– need for multirole naval (strike) fighter for VMF
– need for future exports (its unimaginable, that Myanmar or Belarus will buy T-50…)
– need for lighter and cheaper fighter for VVS
– need for work for RSK in OAK structure
– need for only one russian developer and manufacturer in european part of RF
Paralay’s timing is realistic and logical – corresponds with end of MiG-29 service.
Geo
Sorry my friend, but this IS a Russian engine …. and only to put some specail coating with zig-zigs on it doesn’t make it necessarily a stealty engine.
Deino
Do you think Al-31FN or Al-31FM1 or Al-31FM2 with silver stealthy nozzle, Deino? Or?
Geo
:eek:Will probably be Chinese J31.:D:p
Will probably be something like Chinese “J-31”.;)
T-50K and / or LMFS
I don’t think that it will be T-50K or only it. VMF will need some very universal mid sized platform for all kinds of operations – from close air support to intercepting enemy air vehicles. Moreover RSK MiG needs such development contract…and is declaring that is able to continue work in carrier fighters area. In my opinion its not a matter of two three years, i think 2020 – 2030 period.
Geo
Guys, when will come time for the next russian carrier fighter – successor of MiG-29K/KUB???
AMCA = very nice design! Prospective. Realize this! Congrats to Indians, they surprised.
India has zero contribution to the design.[/QUOTE]
I feel TSAGI fingers there:diablo:
A comparison of the F-22 / T-50:
area of a side view 34 / 27.8 square meters
area of the top view 110.65 / 115.6 square meters
area of the front view 9.25 / 9.47 square metersvolume 65.3 / 62.45 cubic meters
Great! Thanks and regards to RF.
A comparison of the Su-27 / T-50:
area of a side view 38 / 27.8 square meters
area of the top view 110 / 115.6 square meters
area of the front view 10 / 9.47 square metersvolume 69.41 / 62.45 cubic meters
empty weight of the T-50: 17500 kg * (62.45: 69.41) = 15745 kg
Good job, Paralay! Thank you.
Can you make similar comparison T-50/F-22? It would be very interesting…