Clean in a slight dive it could probably break Mach 1 without afterburner. I’ve heard F-15 and F-16 pilots say that they can supercruise in certain conditions.

However, going Mach 1 clean really doesn’t mean anything. Now if you were talking about supercruise in how the Raptor or even the Eurofighter uses it, then no.

The cobra turn is used so the Su-35`s rival looses the firing position while over passing the enemy, that happened in Dubai in 1991 with a mock combat between a Su-30 and Su-35.

The Su-30 and Su-35 existed in 1991? In Dubai?

Like bring it on said, in a dogfight the Cobra turn has a limited envelope and can only be done with certain fuel loads at certain speeds.

Also, at 4:40 in the video, you get to see an expample of the yaw instability the Flanker design exhibits at high AoA, a trait that it not apparent with the Raptor.

I don’t really see anything in the video that the F-22 couldn’t do.

This has been greatly reduced with missiles like the Python V but still the Russians have new designs of AAMS and even reward firing AA-11s

Reward firing missiles. :rolleyes:
You show me evidence of an actual separation test with those. Their effectiveness in real combat is very limited anyway.

Exactly. The Flanker fans claimed that their beloved bird was the only one that could do high AoA maneuvers, even if a lot of experimental US planes did: F 15 ACTIVE, F 15 MATV, X 31, YF 22 (the Russians stunts at Farnborough or Paris were also done by experimental pleas Su 35 Su37). When the Su 30 MKI (the only operational Russian fighter with TVC) reached IOC (2004) the same guys claimed that again only Russian produced operational planes with TVC; when a year later the Raptor reached IOC, they said OK, but the Russians still dominate airshows (like doing circus in airshows is the main pourpose of a military airplane!); when in 2006 the Raptor begin demonstartions in US, they said OK but the Su is the only one present in international airshows :p; finally, if the Raptor can do a Cobra, they said: yes but it can’t do the Chakra…It’s pathetic :p

This man speaks the truth. Everytime the Raptor has proven critics wrong. That international airshow quote was classic.

Please be a mature person, aircraft are machines, machines can always be improve, can always be shot down, the fact the F-117 was shot down it proves you no weapon is safe, no weapon is unvulnerable.

No one says that they are invulnerable but they are very, very hard to detect. Enough to only have one plane shot down in thousands of missions. Do you know of any other attack aircraft with those types of statistics because I don’t. It’s called survivability and stealth aircraft have it in spades.

You get the posture the F-22 is unbeatable, stealth technology flawless, you show propaganda style answers, the people of Lockheed when they knew the F-117 was shot down they were not thinking it`s a fluke, no they had to think the enemy had technology that made stealth technology vulnerable and found stealth flaws.

How do you know what the people of Lockheed were thinking? If anything they were probably very glad that the aircraft they had designed almost 20 years ago had flown thousands of missions only being shot down once. The F-117 incident may have had even more impact on the F-22 program making it even more stealthy than what the USAF had originally planned.

Stealth is not perfect, specially when you have nations with similar scientific and technological level.

The USAF knows it, but they know that if they fight assymetric wars the possibilities the enemy beats you are quit low.

No one says stealth is perfect. I don’t get where you are getting these statements from. We prove to you with facts that the stealth technology is far ahead of what most people think and you think it’s propaganda. There have been billions of dollars of research into this and according you a simple, cheap SAM system has rendered it obsolete. I don’t get it. :confused:

The F-22 as a weapons system is the best fighter aircraft, true but it does not mean some aircraft are not more manoeuvrable, have not supercruise or armed not with better weapons.

The F-22 is the most balanced fighter in what respects stealth, supercruise and super manoeuvrability.

The MiG-29OVT and Su-30MKI are considered equal to the Raptor in terms of manueverablility according to Raptor pilots. There is no other air superiority fighter that employs supercruise in the same way as the F-22. It avionics suite is more powerful than any other fighter. There is a reason why the F-22 is ahead of the field in almost every category.

I kind of wish Boeing would come out with a F-15C+ fitted with F110s and AESA radar or something. I bet that thing would acclerate like a bat out of hell.

What is so special about it? Iran used their F-14s in the mini-AWACS role back in late 70s already. Russians used MiG-31s and Su-30s for the same role sicne early 80s. Peruvians used their golden bullet Mirage 2000Ps as AWACS during the Cenepa war with Ecuador. So what’s the big deal?

The big deal is that the F-22 processes information in a much faster, more precise way than those aircraft. The ALR-94 provides situation awareness just not available in any fighter today. Pair two Raptors together in a high-threat area and they could paint the whole situation to other fighter and bombers in the area.

The flexibilty and processing power of the Raptor’s avionics put it in a different class from the F-14, Su-30, and MiG-31. Don’t forget about the ability of most new AESA radars to track air and ground targets simultaneously.

Sure.. In the times where F/A-22 is battling hard for every unit produced its designers still afford to keep 60% of its capabilities hidden.. And after the production has been reduced to 120 units, they make the big TADAAAAA with nude models jumping out of a huge seven-layer cake, *our bird can do this and this!!!* :rolleyes:

I appreciate your excitation about new technologies but somehow you remind me the crowded masses in Egypt back in 70s who were celebrating the *big rise* of their armed forces after Russian technicians somehow managed to get 20 MiGs airborne for one fly-by using duct tape. :rolleyes: But yes, they say it is nice to have dreams…

I seriously doubt that the F-22’s orders will be cut. If anything they will cut F-35 orders for more Raptors. The USAF knows how important this program is and will sacrifice many things to get more. I think that they will end up with around 210-250 in the long run.

I’d swear I’ve seen a picture of a B-1B with a sniper pod. Maybe it was in flight testing or something.

Yea, I’ve seen it too. I’ll try to find it.

I never claimed to be an expert

Then why are you trying to pass yourself on as one? You obviously don’t know much about stealth or aerodynamics.