What about buying some LCA’s from India? Would that be a possibility. I don’t know the political relations between the two countries, but I guess it should be a cheap and better solution to the F7-MG.
The Governments of both countries arent exactly on “good” terms lately…
said who ? 😀
you seem to have “inside” information about secret indian projects…. 😀 😮 :rolleyes:
I meant this zero-tail drawing.
huh wats the fuss about chinese avionics anyway!?
They are very good and I beleive everyone knows that. If it meets the requirements of PAF…be it chinese or french…that does not matter. Infact, we must look like the Chinese avionics have gotten good enough to compete against those of west. If india can come up with respectable avionics for LCA..expect China to be better or equal.
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anyway, I saw the post on Pakdef regarding this. It was referring too AFM.
and not russian is the title of this topic, so we should talk here about the MCA and not about the PAK-FA
result of a short googeling:
The Medium Combat Aircraft [MCA] is projected as the replacement for the Jaguar and Mirage 2000 fleets in the IAF. It is under design at the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) in Bangalore. The MCA will cost $2 billion to develop and will be a tailless delta design with two engines, combined with a thrust vectoring control capability. It is hoped that the engines on the aircraft will develop a thrust-to-weight ratio of 7.8:1. Although it is unclear which company will be selected to supply the engines; SNECMA, Klimov and General Electric have been identified as potential suppliers
They’ve dropped the this type of design in the drawing you posted.
Jf-17 did first super-sonic flight in March?
It can eliminate the “surprise” factor of Stealth attack.
Escorts equipped with Baraks will take good care of incomming Exocets :-/
Annihilates ten fighter planes to sell the Pakistan country (Xingdao Daily report) after the domestically produced new fighter plane FC1 naming is “the owlet dragon”, what name does the outside all very much pay attention a more advanced fighter plane annihilates ten can use. It is reported, the Chengdu airplane company for has annihilated ten has selected the name which lets the person satisfy – – “the fierce dragon”, but the national defense department also already authorized to annihilate ten exports foreign the plan, the first batch product will sell to Pakistan. Annihilates ten is the Chinese self-restraint third generation fighter aircraft, its battle efficiency and US’S F16 C/D is similar. After 18 year long repeatedly development, annihilates ten A molding machine in two ○ ○ two years in the military service middle, but its following type also is experimenting. According to produces annihilates ten Chengdu airplane group news, annihilates ten defers to uses beast of prey’s name the principle which names for the fighter plane, the official naming is “the fierce dragon”. As the third generation fighter plane, annihilates ten prices confidentially to compare the western nation the war inexpensive to be very many, therefore, third world country to purchases annihilates ten is interested very much. Becomes flies an office personnel Yao even early article to disclose that, in recent years many third world country to international three generation of machine earnestly seeking, after became flies the group diligently to strive for, has facilitated “the fierce dragon” the exportation plan. Some news stated that, the first purchase annihilates ten countries is Pakistan, first contract 50 will annihilate ten outside selling fighter plane to ○ the payment to give Pakistan seven to ○ during eight years the country.
I hate reading the translations :-/
Alex Cool Buddy!!! I was just trying to nail into PLA”s head that u cant change some aircrafts planned Engine with any other new Engine…..
Regds
Infinity
You can, but there is a rational limit, and it costs time and money.
also depends on the airframe.
e.g. Kfir got what it wasnt primarily designed for.
Russia just wants more share of the profits…
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Damn 🙁 🙁 🙁 !!! Firstly, Chinese engineers, and now this??? Beijing’s now
definitely in range that’s for sure!!! Presidente Musharraf better have a damn good answer
for both these happenings or no more Thunder-ventures that’s for sure :p!!!:confused:
umm lol??
naww man..not aimed towards Beijing..Pak will be the last country on the dying planet to raise hostilities with good ol freinds..only msg is —>weee see even we got a big cracker 😛 😛
and ed..pak’s other bm has range of 2.5k.
LOL…anyway..mods clean up the last few posts..rest of the discussion was nice.
Pakistan test fires nuclear-capable missile: ISLAMABAD, Oct 12: Pakistan today successfully test-fired a ballistic missile capable of carrying nuclear warheads as part of its efforts to boost its defences, a military statement said. (Reuters)
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Pakistan Successfully Tests Nuclear Capable Missile, Army Says
Oct. 12 (Bloomberg) — Pakistan successfully fired a medium- range ballistic missile capable of carrying a nuclear warhead, as part of series of tests on the missile system, the Army said in a statement in capital Islamabad.
The Hatf-V missile of the Ghauri series has a maximum range of 1,500 kilometers (932 miles), the Army said. The missile testing was watched by Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz, it said.
The missile, last tested on June 4, “has highly refined guidance and control systems and superior technology capable of achieving the greatest accuracy,” the Army said in the statement. Pakistan’s neighbors, including India, were informed in advance about the tests, the army said.
Pakistan and India, both nuclear powers, have tested a series of missiles since 2002 when the two countries came close to a fourth war. They have fought three wars since independence from Britain in 1947, two of them over the divided Himalayan territory of Kashmir, which is claimed in full by both.
Pakistan and India have moved to repair relations since April last year. Pakistan’s President Pervez Musharraf and Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh agreed to resolve all outstanding issues between the South Asian neighbors in a meeting in New York last month.
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” At present, Cheng?i □more than 150 □seven MG □machine □□, has handed over”
150 MGs..??
you mean china is buying 1000 J-1s ?? or 10000 J-10s ? :confused:
where did i get an extra zero ?? :confused: 😀
and about the “positive marketing side.. ” which nation is buying the J-10(~25 mil USD dragon) in hundreds….?? 😀 and CHINA is not buying J-10(~25 mil USD dragon) ?! 😮 😀
im not talking about j-10 😛