+1! Just ignore star, he has decided that he dosnt like china which is somewhat odd as it is China which is realy responsible for his beloved pakistans continuing survival.:rolleyes:

ahan? 😛 , He argues even with us *shrug*

If you are going for paid, atleast dont go for Norton. AVG free is better than Norton…My experience with both is for 5-6 years, I have had tried many, and Norton is the worst.

It could be very much a bad thing.

If Sharia law were to be implemented in the UK then women would not be able to leave the house unless they were covered from head to toe in Islamic dress, anyone not dressed correctly would be severely punished (look at how the Taleban treated people, that is what you could expect under Sharia law). Rape victims would be killed for adultery with the offender going free. Homosexuals would be executed.

We have spoken to Christians who have lived among Muslims in the Middle East and they are severely repressed, that is if they are actually allowed to follow their religion.

Halal slaughter is obscenely cruel.

You now have Muslims marching through London demanding thee xecution of anyone who does anot agree with their religion (look at how they reacted towards the Pope and the Danes).

You have Muslims preaching in the streets claiming that suicide bombers are heroes and martyrs and that there should be more terror attacks.

Those who planned to blow up 10 airliners in flight in August were all Muslims. Those who hijacked four planes and murdered throusands of innocent people on 9/11 were all Muslims. Those who bombed the Mardid trains in 2004 were all Muslims. Those who bombed Bali were all Muslims. Those who attacked London on 7th July 2005 were Muslims (and one was a member of Amnesty International).

The Koran tells men they should beat their wives, it tells Muslims that they should kill the unbelievers. That is not the kind of world I want to live in, and those who do should go and live in a country which has Sharia law.

And the terror of colonialism for what 400 years?, that was too by muslims heh ? How many people were killed during the construction of Suez Canal? Please tell me? How many people were opressed during colonialism…please tell me, how many homes of Iraqis have been bombed by your forces, please tell me, how many innocents lost thier lives during crusades, please tell me, perhaps the pope should have quoted the violent crusades ordered by his predessors[mind spellings] before he quotes an emperor on violent Islam…How much coverage did your media gave to moderate response of Muslims to pope? NONE….Media likes violence, anger, fire…people watch that, who’de listen to a moderate response when you can get more viewers and more money from violent coverage? I’d suggest you be a pragmatic and keep your idealistic views to your Utopia.

i forgot question that Gray Color delete.

how come Islam people have important and famous scientific engineering culture but went away and stagnant for a long time? before European used to be behind Islamic people but then something happen that let European countries improve beyond them.

Muslims moved to materialistic things, before it was materialism and spirituality, then they moved away from spirituality and the wine got good of muslim rulers…Beautifull European girels also got good of Ottoman sultans 😮

Jihad was done, not in blowing up occupiers, but in science and education, in social development…that was the true Jihad..and its still is, but things changed…now extremists and bbc/cnn have converted the meaning of jihad to something totally different, again the ‘essence’ of Jihad is lost.

Muslims started enjoying thier luxuries, Europeans worked hard and developed themselves, Muslims had catapults, Europeans had guns and cannons and East India Company 😡

The Economic system of Muslim nations wasnt mature enough, while Capitalist movment’s inherent expansionism helped the Europeans…

There are hundreds of books on this issue, you can write everything in a post 🙂

And as for the Sharia Law, How many MUSLIM countries have implemented it? Maybe one or two? And those that had partial parts of them under some western-supported dictator having fun with ‘western’ sponsored Muslim extremists is also movingaway from it.

Sharia law is for the 1,400 year old environment, and for that times, i think its quite lenient.. no one has bothered to update it with present circumstances.

Compare Islam’s timeline with other major religions, and you will see for youself its the most peacefull one. Go ahead…

The problem is, is that there are too many different interpretations within the Moslem religion as to what is right.
I was interested to watch Yusuf Islam, the former Cat Stevens, on Jules Holland the other night, having converted to the Moslem faith, he at first decided it wasn’t appropriate to continue to produce music, but looking into his own interprations of the faith, it’s not a problem.
My mother, a feisty 90 year old in Nottingham lives on a road where once it was full of old white war heroes but is now occupied by all sorts of races and religions, she actually really prefers the Moslem family that lives at the end of the road, they look after her and she really likes them.
So what happens now, do we have a civil war or try and understand each other, it’s difficult, my missus has no time for them, her father is very outspoken on Moslems and I have to admit that I blow hot and cold on the subject.
Why can’t we all get on, isn’t it the same God after all, not that he’s done us any favours over the past few years, I question the existance of any deity, it doesn’t make sense after all.
Please can we all give each other space and understanding.

Quran encourages you to think rationally of what is written in it and not go by word to word…problem is extremists dont understand..anothe problem is with lack of social development among many Islamic nations, people think what an extremist says maybe right, its all messed up. Extremists dont understand the true ‘essence’ of Islam.

And Islamic would be a return to the dark ages.

I suggest you read history of the middle east region, where Islam converted uncivilised bedouns into the most civilised nation of its time…and that happened very quickly. It carried the torch of knowledge from the greeks and the romans while Europe was in dark ages. Matter of fact is, History shows the opposite of your personal opinion.

Again, problem is these self-claimed champions of Islam receive unneccesory[mind spellings] attention…mostly from western media i.e.

Afterall, we are also responsible for creating these zombies under western influence…ad they have come back to haunt us all. Bombs are blown everyday, not on the streets of Europe, but in Islamic countries, we are suffering the most from it, not Europe or America.

Which, of course, means next to nothing if they continue to refuse to deal with Waziristan…

They are doing something, thats why west is still dealing with Pakistan. Its easy to target Pakistan to cover up your own mistakes, for reference, refer to search engine of CNN or BBC…google would be the best choice 😉
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Hoping to see JF-17 on 23rd march parade 🙂

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I think we are talking about numbers of PAF as:

~90-100 F-16s – If USA honours its words.
~200-250 JF-17s in several blocks.
~30-50? J-10s/FC-20.
~AWACS, Swedish and Chinese(With complete ToT :D) ~7-10+ AWACS :O, Refueling tankers.

By then Chinese will be having ‘export’ version of 5th gen fighter. 🙂

That would be I think the most dramatic change in an Airforce in quite sometime.. Also shows the weak side that nothing was done with PAF, sanctions, etc etc. Not PAF’s fault ;d