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CNN on the TV did not mention forest fires.

They showed SAT pics on tv..could not spot clouds or forest…. ?

must be the silo near by??? USA would be making all the noise if it really was nuke. Pak tested nukes “under the mountains” and USA knew they tested atleast 3…thats what i heard when CNN first broke the news. Now this one was out in open….so Americans know it wasnt a nuke. and dont trust CNN all the time 😉 they reported shuttle incomming at speed of light…mightve been a typo..but who knows :rolleyes:

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Yes it was Nishan, coolest looking UAV in the region 😉 ,

sources related to Nishan and Sea Skimming

http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/printer_4.shtml

http://www.aiaa.org/aerospace/Article.cfm?issuetocid=365&ArchiveIssueID=39

(anyone confirm the below Janes article independently plz… )

Jane’s Missiles and Rockets, Dec 1 2002 issue says:

Pakistan tests sea-skimming UAV
David C Isby

Pakistan has announced it has tested technology for a sea-skimming version of its 35km-range National Development Complex (NDC) delta-wing Nishan Mk 2TJ target drone.

The “surface-skimming module” was announced when this turbojet-powered version of the Nishan had been displayed in 2001, but this has apparently been the first test of the capability.

The Nishan Mk 2 TJ has a maximum speed of 370km/h, a 42kg takeoff weight and can carry a 12kg payload. The announcement was apparently made to counter India’s successful test in June of the BrahMos anti-ship missile being developed in co-operation with Russia.

It suggests that Pakistan is investing in technologies that would enable it to develop indigenous anti-ship missiles comparable to the BrahMos.

In the interim, however, the modified Nishan would allow Pakistan to develop countermeasures against surface-skimming threats.

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Depends how much intelligence Americans share, and there attitude towards sharing intel isnt great really. They want to do all the hunting themselves. Sometimes it goes to the point that they cross the border themselves, and do not inform Pakistanis about the ppl they chasing, and then they ask Pakistanis to hunt them inside caves. + CIA has quite a reputation for correct intelligence these days 😉

Do you really think we can accept the Iranians having nuclear weapons?
Only responsible and stable regimes should be allowed to have nuclear ability. Iran’s regime is neither.

what man?? they’re quite stable..been there for looong time now. Dunno about Responsibility, everyone has different views about them..and launching a nuke aint a simple task..needs strong C&C, Iranians arent stupid enough to launch a nuke just like that on Israel. Its more of a propaganda I beleive. Again, different views for different ppl. Offcourse if I was in ur position, i’d be saying the same for Iranians. 😉 , I dont like the regime anyway.

Related news:
TEHRAN (AFP) Sep 02, 2004
Iran intends to launch its first satellite into space in April 2005, with the device described as being purely for civil purposes, Iranian media reported Thursday.

The satellite, code-named Mesbah (lantern), was shown on state television. It is said to weigh 60 kilograms (132 pounds) and is cube-shaped which each side measuring 50 centimetres (20 inches). It will be put into orbit at an altitude of 900 kilometres (about 560 miles).

“The satellite will be used to identify natural resources, control the electrical and energy network (gas and oil), and later on can be used by communications and crisis management,” press reports said.

The head of the Islamic republic’s Scientific and Industrial Research Centre, Seyed Mohammad Fathi, was quoted as saying the project would allow Iran to develop other satellites in the future.

In January, Iran’s defence minister said the satellite would be launched by Iranian technology, but gave no further details.
http://www.spacedaily.com/2004/040902084238.7tlw4kbq.html

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http://www.iribnews.ir/Full_fa.asp?news_id=123479459245825

Iran will nip any plot in the bud

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Mashhad, Khorassan prov, Sept 5 – Days after announcing the arrest of dozens for spying on Iran’s nuclear program, Information Minister Ali Younesi vowed here Saturday that his ministry would ‘nip any plot in the bud’.

Speaking at a ceremony in this northeastern city to mark the 20th anniversary of his ministry’s establishment, Younesi said the Information Ministry has all the enemies of the Islamic Republic under surveillance.

“We easily manage our enemies and arrest them whenever needed,” said the Minister, who is fresh from announcing Tuesday that several people had been arrested for transferring nuclear information abroad.

‘We admit having the best intelligence service in the world now’, Younesi added.

“The Information Ministry, thanks to its enormous experience, is now able to fight out an intelligence battle against the most powerful security establishments of the world. “And we believe we can win most of those battles,” he added.

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Now we atleast know Erez was right about the mossad part..they do have ppl on the ground. ignore rest of the patriotic stuff.

probably a large scale EMP device.

Well..apart from the ones PIA uses..those typical Airbus and Boeng ones i think, and apart from those russian ones Shaheen airways uses. The only millitary plane i’ve been into is C-130…and see it wasnt fun, becuase I was 2 :-/