Nice to hear AFM describes the plane as “Fourth Generation” , another arguement buried. :rolleyes:
I posted the news, if you have problems..go to the editor
okay once we have the mod..they can be merged..and most of the times its flamers who take the threads to 4-5 pages..not PAF fans….we cant have a clean discussion..thats why a new thread has to be started because previous ones are being hijacked by some 13 y/o lamers who just discovered BR.
and thiss will continue until someone takes actions to stop the lamers and village idiots
What exactly is meant by PAF’s westernised ideas?
Western Avionics..what else?
so 4 Billion will only get 40 Gripens..thats expensive…!! Hope Swedes allow bit of tech to be used into JF-17 too
200 FC-1s
80 Gripens
100 F-PGs
30 F-16s
7 Erieye
7 TankersNow thats my dream PAF!
More realistic Figure:
150 Fc-1s
40-80 Gripens
current # of PGs
To hell with F-16s
4 Erieye
no idea about tankers
hmm..JF-17 and Gripen will make a nice combination..lil wicked fighters 😉
Guys dont go off-topic, typical BRatish tactic,
About Swedes publishing the news, most of their news sites are in Swede :-/
Well I just contacted Gripen Team regarding the news, I doubt they will ever reply but hey..just for the sake of it.
you could have PMed any PDF member, no need to start a thread.
Why are Saudis not buying Sukhoi?? it could possibly come with huge ToT ??
mean..its about time they atleast depend upon themselves on something…
is the white one f-17?
isnt FC-1 the first ‘market-oriented’ product??? or there have been others in the past?
since when did Iran got into arms race with Iraq???? new WWE gimick or what??
Last thing i know they’re more concerned with immenent Israeli threat to there nuke assets.
well i think you answered your own question there. the J10 with advanced western radar and avionics would be cheaper and more capable then most of the western 3rd gens on the market and not far off from the euro-canards, so why would any western supplier give the J10 their avionics and radar so that the J10 can take orders from their fighters?
what does the French make more from, selling radars and avionics for J10s which in turn would be sold to a thrid party, or selling M2K-5/9s directly to that thrid party?
the only thing that may persuade the French to sell radars and avionics to the J10 is if the PLAAF have all their J10s fitted with the same radar. only then will it be worth while for the French.
however, the PLAAF wont take foreign kit unless it comes with full ToT and licence production in country later. and again we hit a snag as the French would not be willing to do that, cos then they would loose all their technical edge in a few years, and their next gen fighters wont be able to compete with their chinese counterparts, as the chinese made fighters will almost certainly be cheaper, and will most likely be on par in terms of performance.
they can generate sales by radar or no sales at all, I bleleive Avionics have larger profit margins then airframes..?
the initial version inducted earlier will be upgraded as well or the newer versions will have the enhancements?