I beleive the final price would be more than or around $100m

@Google:The prototype of F-7MF flew.

@PLA: Ya PLA, as if I care they report me or not 😀 , i dont even read the posts nowadays and just skip and goto the relevant posts here. Ya JSF is not as stealthy as F-22, F-117 and B-2. But still it is extremely stealthy, even when carrying few missiles externally will not make JSF easy to detect, maybe huge external load out will make the enemy radar beep from far away which has to be extremely modern. But the thing is JSF wont carry load externally where there is danger ;).

F-16 is about the same size as Fc-1, but different blocks of F-16s have different RCS, later ones being more stealthy. It will come down to quality of RAM, but still wont have any ‘significant’ effect on RCS.

Originally posted by Billy Bishop
Look at the intricate detail given about the F-26. If it’s a joke, why would someone spend hundreds of hours making that website? No one would waste that much time on a joke.

koz even if they ‘sell’ one piece, they’ll cover the costs much time over 😉

Originally posted by PLA
Not that good… But if the JSF has some ordnance under the wings then there will me not much difference

WRONG, Still there will be ‘much’ difference in RCS, JSF uses very advanced composites which also absorb radar waves + shape + RAM + Avionics, FC-1 = only RAM and lil bit of shape. So stills significant difference.

(Ignore them guys! dont comment on them!)

anyway…how many do you think is logical numbers for China and what would be the capability of the chinese radar compared to grifo S7?

So whats new in Jh-7a s…sorry for my ignorance about JH-7 since so much news about Chinese AF, only manage to keep track of Fc-1 and J-10s.

I’d agree with PLA, not only capabillity, but newer F-16s blocks get more attention from manufacturers about reducing RCS.

@GD: is Cobra any useful or is it just fancy manouvre to make ppl happy in air shows…(really made me happy when i saw it in the airshow in dubai..)

The Adam of FC-1s…

anyway..

http://www.jang-group.com/thenews/apr2004-daily/16-04-2004/main/update.shtml#37

(Jang is the most popular Urdu Newpaper, but its not as credible as Dawn)

PAF to receive JF-17 thunder by mid 2006
(Updated at 2140 PST)ISLAMABAD: Project Director Joint Fighter-17 Thunder, Air Vice Marshal Shahid Latif, said in his press briefing at Air Head Quarter that first consignment of Joint Fighter-17 “Thunder”, produced jointly by Pakistan and China will be handed over to Pakistan Air Force by Mid January 2006.
He said: “Out of 16 JF-17 fighter places only eight jet planes will be provided to Paksitan other eight to China Air Force.” Serial production of JF-17 would kick off in the year of 2007, added Mr. Latif.

Annually total 20 JF-17 thunder planes, however, would be manufactured, said the air vice marshal.

Super Seven is a light weight, multi-role day-night, all weather fighter with max TO weight 12,700kg, max speed 1.6M, ceiling 16,500m, max weapon load 3,900kg, range 3,000km. It uses Russian RD-93 turbofan engine, which is an upgrade of RD-33, this RD-93 turbofan engine is also used in Russian MiG-29 it is claimed to 80-85% as capable as American F-16 and highly aerial maneuverability as its key features. RD-93 engine used in FC-1 is build in China with Russian license. The aircraft can also be fitted with an in-flight refueling probe and a deck arrester hook.

This will increase its striking range beyond 3,000km.

JF-17 thunder plane is designed to be fitted with vast array of weaponry. It has a total of seven store stations, one under the fuselage and six under the wing with a maximum weapon load of 3,800kg.

The Joint Fighter-17 primary air to air weapon is a medium range SD-10 Beyond Visual Range (BVR) missile. Other weapons it can carry are short and medium range AAMs (Anti-Air Missiles) like AIM-9P/PL-9/Magic 2 and PL-11/Aspide/AIM-7E etc. In addition to that it can carry wide array of high and low drag bombs, laser guided bombs, runway penetration bombs and cluster bombs for air strikes.

The project was initiated in February 1992, by China Aero-Technology Import and Export Corporation (CATIC) who officially invited the PAF to invest in the Super-7 program. In return for full participation in design and development phase, with exclusive co-production rights. After careful consideration Pakistan Air Force (PAF) decided to go ahead with is project and got the Government approval in October 1994.

This project is a joint venture between Pakistan Air Force and China Aero-Technology Import and Export Corporation along with Chengdu Aircraft Industry Corporation (CAC). Research and Development cost of this project is between 450 to 500 million US dollars This multi-million dollar project is financed up to 50%-59% by government of Pakistan. Estimated cost per air craft will be around 15-20 million US dollars which makes it excellent option for export market.

————-

So China keeping eight for itselves, so they havent completely given up on FC1 🙂