Originally posted by Groo
Pakistan is long dead and buried as of 1971. After losing more than half your population, approximately half your economy and a quarter of your territory, for your country to call itself Pakistan is stupid. Punjabistan is more accurate.
see guys..another one with inferiority complex arrives, this guy is even better the sharma…as of now Groo ranks number two, just below indian1973 and just above sharmaji.
Stay away from him/he whatever this thing is okay..PAF fan and PLA stay away from himm..im advicing you now, dont tell me later that even you guys got some sort of inferiority complexes, this guy kidn of has a mutated version of it, its next-generation, state-of-the-art, highly sophisticated complex, develop by
DR.DOlittle..oooooo… LMAO
Originally posted by indian
To begin with, the nuclear weapon itself was a decision forced on us by the Chinese and subsequently by the Pakistani bomb program (which, if you recall started before Pokhran-I in 1972).
And Advani married Cindrella and they live happily ever after.
India may say need for e.g. 10 nukes to wipe out Pakistan, but Pakistan needs 80. Thats the logic.
As for rest of your ‘personal opinions’, I wouldnt even bother replying, why koz i have pizza hut guy is knocking on my door.
Originally posted by flex297
I am just wondering if the nuclear program was worth it…
ask that to Chinese and Indians when they first got nukes.
and I would always prefer Freedom rather than being a slave.
For the Freedom I live and for the Defence of Freedom of my Country I wish I shall die.
Originally posted by flex297
I am not talking about India now, so do not mention it here once again…All in all, if you are happy witha situation like this, why should I care?
if indians quit flaming, i have no reason to bring india here, but if they’re flaming, then they should expect replies, not the same 13 y/o type, else that would make me no different from them…the rule of the game is if you reply to a flamer, ur no diffferent unless offcourse you reply in a gentleman manner.
and i’ll be unhappy about the situation until every single Pakistan isnt out of poverty line. I’ll be unhappy until Pakistan becomes developed nation..I’ll be unhappy until corruption, crime etc is eliminated….so you happy now?
Originally posted by plawolf
well, china allowing the blue ridge and later kitty hawk to visit chinese ports are signs that china won launch an assault on taiwan on matter how the vote goes this month.the US deciding to send its ships at this time can also be seen as a polite reminder that they are still in the block.
agreed, its taiwanese leader whose not being polite lately
Originally posted by flex297
A half of your population is starving to death and the other half rather leaves families and travels to UAE to do the dirtiest jobs just to earn at least something.. Apparently nobody givs a damn.. But you got your pride and of course, your nuke toys.. 🙂 The whole population can go on with the psychic masturbation how they WOULD kick the a$$ out of anybody and starve on..I mean, is this really worth it? Why not change the way of thinking? It is MUCH cheaper…
^^ its not half, its 35%, just getting ur figures straight, btw in india, ppl starving are twice the whole population of Pakistan.
As for UAE, that includes Indians as well 😉 infact more indians :P.
^^ increasing ur General knowledge.
Just straight plain positvie statement, no normative statement, so its not a flame
Originally posted by google
Please sharmaji, it’s guerilla warfare, not GORILLA warfare (like the monkey). Get it straight.
LMAO,
anyway PAK_FAN and especially PLA, aviod flames, its a well known tactic. We have nothing against Russia, keep it that way, dont fall for the indian trap.
PLZ PLZ ignore them and stick to the topic, if you dont give bone to the dog, it stops barking 😉 <<– thats the trick.
and ignore flex’s post below me, read the above line and remember it ;), remember the inferiority complex?? dont make it worse.
manouvres i think of first flight..dunno if it was the first public flight or the very first one.

Want to get jealous of chinese??? watch this sleek dragon, Son of LAvi, Brother of Fc-1…the king of dragons…muhahaha J-10

Originally posted by PAF Fan
Shamarji
The PAF does not exist to impress you, but when our boys on a 2 F-16 patrol managed to shoot down 2 MIGs while outnumbered 8 to 2, that certianly impressed me, as did the skill of PAF pilots against teh Israelis….
not only against israelis and Russians 😉 PAF Fan, id just suggest you to stricly stick to the the topic, no need to bring india, israel here, you know wh,y koz there are some ppl waiting for oppurtunity to ruin this thread, dont give them a chance. We are outnumbered, thats the case everywhere, lets deal the quantity with quality…isnt that been our succesful doctrine for last 50 years 😉
hope you dont mind brother, Pakistan Zindabad.
Originally posted by Shkval1
Well, the problem is they only targeted the aircrafts without any A2A rockets, especially those ones bombers that going after manoeuvre, far from any base, without experience (Afghan pilots), the Soviet ones never ever paid much attention to them even if they were close, and with all these efforts they scored in pure combat about 6 kills. So for better records it could be useful for Pakistanis AF to apply they experience on civilian aircrafts. 🙂
first you say bombers..then you say civilian planes..make up your mind dude 😉
Originally posted by sharmaji
Actually the games will not begin, we are fed up with flames, let paf fan huff and puff, there is no point in gloating over the shoot down of strike acs, bombers, choppers, atlantiques ect, if the PAf had shot down a MiG-29 or even a Su-24, then I would be impressed, now do not get me wrong, I am not saying that the PAf would not be able to do that okay, keep it friendly.
some indian starts a flame and you pick on PAF Fan, you and your sarcasm –> Infe……. compl…. lol, seriously if this thread gets ruined by some indians, dont say some of your other thread got ruined for no reason. Show respect and you’ll get respect.
Originally posted by yerna1
Money is not a problem anymore for LCA development. Even if you throw in a billion dollars more at ADA, they cannot spped up the development of LCA. Development is a step by step process and the important factor is time. Money can only do so much.
Even after induction, you cannot induct all planes in two or three years. The problem is not production line. If the IAF order is for 200 planes then HAL cannot start a line to manufacture them all in one year. That way you wont break-even. How can you recover the investment? Economics.
i was talking about multiple production lines, offcourse after the LCA is all set to go.
sorry guys, what i meant was apart from med.rn. SD-10, is china working on any other med/long range missile..a2a.
India should learn something from Pak and drop the idea of F-16, during war, it’ll be getting no spares stuff etc, and America can be as dangerous either freind or enemy, ask anyone apart from americans,israelis or british.
Mig-29 would be good, very cost effective, i assume it has lower running costs then m2ks, and latest fulcrums finally have FBW.
M2k, expensive, made in france, more expensive, training by french, even more espensive, and wth PAF operating them next, (example okaY!!) french will sell to anyone.
Indians have more experience with mig-29s. LCA and Mig-29 wil be more effective option rather than m2k and LCA, im talking about flexibility.