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  • in reply to: ¡iPIC¡jNew Chinese J10B(twin seats) #2679407
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    Since the Lavi design came well before the J-10, I’d imagine the Lavi drawing predates the J-10 work by quite some time. Also notice the AVIAGRAPHICA logo on the wing leading edge, it is copyrighted to somebody, probably Mike Badrocke.

    So, the two drawings (the planes themselves) could have come from the same artist/studio?

    in reply to: ¡iPIC¡jNew Chinese J10B(twin seats) #2679445
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    That’s the whole point, some people refuse to believe that somebody took a Lavi drawing and altered portions of it (vertical tail top, wingtips, etc) to resemble a twin-seat J-10

    How are you so sure that they were not created by the same hand/artist? Also, how can you tell which one came first?

    I would say it’s possible that it’s PS at work, but how can you tell for sure?

    in reply to: ¡iPIC¡jNew Chinese J10B(twin seats) #2680074
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    I think the two models capture the numerous structural differences that exist between the Lavi and J-10 quite well. Probably the work from the same artist or studio.

    in reply to: ¡iPIC¡jNew Chinese J10B(twin seats) #2680238
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    Reposted for better comparison.

    in reply to: ¡iPIC¡jNew Chinese J10B(twin seats) #2680729
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    The 2-seat version of the F-22 was cancelled.

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    model 2

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    Did israel really order the Lakshya or does India want Israel to buy it?

    Saturday, 20 December , 2003, 05:33 Jerusalem: Israel has offered to take on lease the pilotless target aircraft (PTA), Lakshya, from India for a few years, according to defence sources.

    The offer has led to resentment in Indian defence circles who have repeatedly reminded Israel of its commitment to buy the PTA way back in 2001.

    Israel was favourably impressed after studying technical details and the cost of the Aircraft, the source said, but as negotiations went ahead it slowly ‘lost interest’, citing no specific reason.

    The matter is said to have been raised again during the visit of a high level technical team headed by the Scientific Adviser to the Defence Minister, Dr V K Aatre, towards the end of last month.

    The Israeli side seems to be quite aware of the Indian uneasiness. Reserves General Joseph Ben-Chanan, Director of Assistance and Defence Exports in the Israeli Ministry of Defence (Sibat), addressing a defence delegation from India in Tel Aviv last month, applauded the expertise acquired by the Indian defence industries and based on “personal experience” emphasised, “Export alone cannot survive, it has to be cooperation”.

    The Indian defence delegation led by Chairman of CII’s National Committee on Defence, Atul Kirloskar, and representatives of leading Indian defence companies tried to impress upon Israeli companies to look towards India for outsourcing to offset a bit the huge imbalance in arms transaction between the two countries.

    Some of the delegates told UNI that they would try to prevail upon the Israeli side to use Indian expertise for outsourcing given the ”strategic alliance”, instead of using European and other countries they have relied upon so far. Israel is, meanwhile, going ahead with its other commitment of launching Tauvex, a set of three telescopes to image ultraviolet sky, on board India’s GSAT-4 satellite, officials said.

    Israeli Science and Technology minister is to leave for India tomorrow accompanied by Israel Space Agency Director, Aby Har-Even and would be meeting ISRO officials to finalise the pact.

    Tauvex, developed by Tel Aviv University, is designed to study black holes, the formation of stars and other astronomical phenomena, which could identify further research for other space telescopes such as the U S Hubble.

    Israel is also helping India’s Hindustan Aeronautical Limited in marketing its products, and its ALH Dhruv is said to have attracted the attention of world market.

    Israel has surged to become the third largest exporter of arms in the world with net sales reaching 4.1 billion dollars last year.

    India is said to have contributed almost 50 per cent of this figure, as per a Defence News report.

    http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=13340952

    Jerusalem, Dec. 21. (PTI): Israel defence officials are skeptical of reports in the Indian media claiming that Israel has offered to lease and not buy India’s Lakshya Pilotless Targeted Aircraft (PTA), and cannot answer the riddle of who offered to lease the plane.


    Israel undertook only to help India market Lakshya PTAs in third countries as part of its broad cooperation agreement with Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) These negotiations are indeed stalled and it is not clear exactly why, defence sources said.

    “However we are not aware that this has caused resentment or dissatisfaction in Indian defense circles”, sources added.

    However, spokesman for Prime Minister Ariel Sharon declined to comment on the purported tension between the respective defence establishments.


    Informed defence source told PTI that Israel does not need the Indian Lakshya.

    It has its own domestic supply of high quality unmanned pilotless aircraft which are technologically superior to the Indian and even American product.

    “What Israel does need,” he said, “is more Indian information about Pakistani unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) built with North Korean technology”.

    He attributed the weekend report to commercial interests seeking to press Israel into advancing foreign sales of the Lakshya and into outsourcing more of its defense production contracts to Indian industries.

    http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/holnus/00321173022.htm

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