There’s a good chance it was converted to Type F configuration, which would give it more fuel than a Type C. “Mk.V” in this case, as others have pointed out, just means Merlin 45 engine was fitted.
bob
Isn’t there one being done, supposedly in the colours of Tom Campbell Black’s aeroplane?
http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1&mode=detail&aircrafttype=mew gull&dataindex=1
Ooh! I’ve heard various rumors about various interest, but that looks more “real”- might have to contact that chap…
Another personal priority, though in flagrant defiance of the rules (hey, it’s my imaginary money, so I’ll build what I want!):
VL Pyry. When my Finnish wife took me to the museum in Helsinki, I saw the one there and fell in love (again) – it is just so darn cute, and would be great on skis (here in Maine) in the winter…
bob
A proper Mew Gull, with the original canopy.
Miles M.20
Spiteful (even though others have already said it)
He-100D
And then the following year…
bob
Except for the silly “extra stab” (trim?) on the fin-top, that’s a fine looking aeroplane. Can just imagine it in airshow paint!
bob
HE Apr 1939 – Sep 1939
Can’t recall, either, whether I took this at Northolt in summer ’40 or Northolt/Kenley in ’41.
Tim,
They’re wearing Sky tail bands, so would have been Nov ’40 at the earliest, and the black port underside went away again around April ’41 (according to “history”). Hope this helps jog a memory!
bob
big or little?
I could never work out the reasoning for the weird mix of 20 mm cannon and .303 machine guns…
a) Lack of confidence in the cannon (true enough about the early cannon Spits)
b) The “old guard” saying that cannon are unnecessary and 303’s worked fine for me etc etc.
c) We’ve got the space so let’s stick a few 303’s in for good measure (or in the case of the Spit leave them where they are?
d) All of the above?
I can’t speak for the Beau, indeed I’d like to know more about the addition of .303s to it, therefore I plead guilty of perpetrating thread drift; I’ll take a stab at an answer for the Spitfire:
D) All of the above
At least, at one time or another each of the answers can be supported.
The initial side-mounted, drum-fed “b-wing” installation was not a great one, and limited the firing time for the cannon (assuming they would continue firing!) The “continuous feed” was being developed, but meanwhile re-fitting 4 .303s was both a useful supplement to the cannon and insurance that you’d at least have something to shoot with.
A mix was favoured at least by some, because when fighting against an Me-109 one .303 round in the radiator could be just as much trouble for Herr Emil as could a bullseye with the 20mm. When the Fw-190 made its appearance the .303 seemed far less useful. As for bombers, arguments raged.
As Graham points out, 4 20mm turned out to be a bit much for the Spitfire until later, and initially there was quite a bit of uncertainty about whether there’d be enough Hispanos to go around. Joe Smith’s “universal wing” was an inspired choice, side-stepping the problem of changing requirements. Incidentally, one further advantage of this wing that is seldom noted is that the inboard (4) .303s, if going with the 8 Browning option, could have more rounds per gun, which Supermarine had also been asked about somewhere along the way.
bob
Letters and numbers
Right, the initial development configurations ran through the alphabet to ‘G’ at least. But it is the “production”* Mark numbers I’m specifically wondering about. (Hmm, that makes three systems used on the Merlin at one time or another…)
* By production I mean that system, not versions actually put into production.
Thanks,
Bob
Wrong conference
The Whirlwind was at the earlier Florida conference, not the Pax River one that the book covers. I haven’t seen reference to similar documents for the earlier conference, but it must be out there!
It was a Seafire, by the way, not Spit.
bob
Ta!
Thanks for the leads, and the “magic words” for Google.
bob
Ta!
Thanks for the leads, and the “magic words” for Google.
bob
RAF against Japan
Don’t know how significant this is to the discussion, but I think real planning for “after Germany” began around April/May ’44, shortly BEFORE D-Day. Sorry for the imprecision, but I’d have to do some digging to get a clearer idea.
re building B-29s, summer of ’42 [yes, I’m jumping back!] was a time of much planning in terms of resources, etc, and I do recall a comment which I think was about then (might have been slightly later) along the lines of “If we’re going to focus on one US type to build here, it seems like the B-29 would be the one to choose [vs. the Merlin Mustang].” But I don’t know anything directly about the idea of building B-29s in UK.
bob
Ehm, does that make it “Vampire Bytes”?
Yes but…
I seem to be the only one talking (I’m ‘gingerbob’). And this forum taps some people that probably aren’t over there.
bob
The floatplanes
are Curtiss SC-1
bob
p.s. Thanks for sharing these photos!
One correction
Tim
These may be new to you, postwar though. I have no idea of copyright or origins as more details disappeared in a hard drive crash!
Nice shots- that “other plane” is a Tempest Mk.II, not a Fury (as the photo is titled).
I notice the original question was wartime shots, and everybody is coming up with postwar shots. Not that I’m complaining!
bob