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January 9, 2011 at 11:54 pm in reply to: Air War over Iran – Part 2 #2326000

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do you think Syria was silly enough to have it all in one site- NO!

But one strike was all that was needed to achieve its goal…

you do NOT have to wipe out everything to achieve the goals needed- wiping out 2 sites would put a dent in production for a while, give it renewed focus in world affairs, slow it down even longer(by denying them sale of replacement parts,and possibly bring arab and israeli closer(even anti Israelis dont want Iran to have the bomb)

January 9, 2011 at 11:48 pm in reply to: RN cvarriers on Yankee station #2014542

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What works in one campaign may not necessarily apply in another. In both Malaya and Borneo the local population were largely sympathetic to Britain, in Malaya the insurgents were isolated from their Soviet sponsors and couldn’t receive supplies on a large scale, whereas in Vietnam the VC could be. While Britain did succeed in Malaya and Borneo it failed to put down the Aden insurgency albeit the military and political circumstances were very different.

offtopic-
Sorry to disagree here, but Australia, using British tactics with our improvements had some great success, and the same could have been said for any british contribution. that and different media coverage and…….

on topic-

If having a carrier deployed would be too difficult, what about a squadron of Buccs on a US carrier?

January 9, 2011 at 11:42 pm in reply to: US DOD highlights sustainable defense budget #2326095

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Develop a new long range, nuclear-capable penetrating bomber, which will be designed using proven technologies, an approach that should make it possible to deliver this capability on schedule and in quantity.

WOW!! new build B-52s in 2040!!!!!:D

January 9, 2011 at 11:40 pm in reply to: Air War over Iran – Part 2 #2326101

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see about the ‘vela incident’-possible israeli and/or south african nuclear test in the south atlantic.

and regarding the second F-117/B-2 damaged, why would the full moon make any real difference for SAMs- for AAA I could understand, but I understood the first F-117 loss to be a very specific set trap and a aircraft with stealth problems(field servicing can disrupt the carefully stealth without the proper test equipment)

And why is the ‘said number of aircraft’ needed now 100? a surprise attack, using 25-40 aircraft, could hit 2 sites quite well with minimal risk- this wouldnt be needing 100 aircraft.

and Israeli EW equipment has long know to be very good(think F-16 spines etc) and they are one of the most experienced AFs in Air to Air and SEAD missions. why are people assuming its so hard?

one strike on Syria achieved alot politically and militarily- why not the same for Iran- its not like there are a lot of US politicians who would be sad to see Iran hit:rolleyes:

January 8, 2011 at 3:39 am in reply to: Air War over Iran – Part 2 #2328822

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and then Israel nukes Beirut, Damascus and most of Iran…..so no. Iran would not do that. they like other people to suicide for the cause, not them.

January 8, 2011 at 3:31 am in reply to: F-35B – If it get's cancelled #2014750

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All this does is strengthen the case for dropping the B model. I doubt if given the choice between F-35B and 20000 marines, they wouldnt pick 20000 gators keeping their jobs.
Time for Harrier 3, with RAM coatings, upgraded engine, AESA and AIM-120Ds. this will provide the US and allies with a AFFORDABLE CAS/carrier aircraft. If the mairines are fighting alone in medium level, this will do. If against a peer nation, F-35Cs would be there and make the B model redundant.

January 8, 2011 at 3:19 am in reply to: Air War over Iran – Part 2 #2328834

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exactly PPP- you only need to hit the one major to point to stall the program. even if all targets are hit and 100% destroyed, the knowledge will be there. the strike only has to slow them down and make Israels political point.

making comparisons to serbia is pointless- there is absolutely no similarities. we are not talking about a massive air war over several weeks- we are talking 1-2 strikes over 1-2 days, with far less goals then NATO Vs Serbia.

January 7, 2011 at 5:55 pm in reply to: F-35B – If it get's cancelled #2014877

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the ramps would still be used to launch UAV/UCAVs
or refurbished GR9s:D

January 7, 2011 at 5:53 pm in reply to: Air War over Iran – Part 2 #2329593

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I was more going along with their points.
Even China and Russia wont buy in here

January 7, 2011 at 5:12 pm in reply to: Air War over Iran – Part 2 #2329711

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Because any strike by Israel will draw attention to Irans Nuke program again, and any retaliation by Iran would be smashed and widely condemned. Israel will just say it was acting the way everyone else wished they could-ala wikileaks, and any retaliation would see more american military aid to Israel increase, where as they were looking at cutting it to bring Israel to the peace table. Hamas will draw into it, Israel will again point to the Iran-Hamas/hezbollah connection and say how do you negotiate with terrorist organisations?

while it wont be pure vanilla for Israel, I believe a strong case could be made in favour.

January 7, 2011 at 4:22 pm in reply to: Air War over Iran – Part 2 #2329839

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Saudia and Jordan would be unlikely to raise much fuss. If Iran got S-300s and JF-17 because of it, Israel would be given more F-35s to compensate, maybe even F-22s. then Saudi and Japan would want them. That means China and Russia would have to beef up against Japanese F-22s, and Iran would have Saudis F-22 equipped. Israel could strike Iran very successfully, it doesnt even need to hit more than 50%, as the raid would achieve most of there aims just by happening

January 6, 2011 at 2:29 pm in reply to: Air War over Iran – Part 2 #2331823

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Why do you think the Iranians stopped supporting the Insurgency in Iraq openly? the consequences are too great.

anyway

what support aircraft and units would be used?
would the raid commander be in the backseat of a F-15/16I or in one of there biz-jet awacs or C-130 or C3 C-135?

would a sayeret launch a raid on a border radar complex or two to make it easier? what kind of CSAR capability could be reasonably expected

January 6, 2011 at 12:33 pm in reply to: Air War over Iran – Part 2 #2331993

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Iran never said to be willing to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. What they said is we need to wipe Zionism from the face of the earth… wich is different. Beside even if Iran get a nuke, how exactly do you propose they wipe Isreal with enough precision to be sure it wont fall in Lebanon, Syria, Palestine instead ? Pakistant and India are still trying to find a proper way to nuke each other despite the fact that they share a border with each other. Right now it’s Isreal that is a source of destabilisation of the region with all it’s constant threat and menace to other nation, illegal occupation, oh and bombing of humanitarian convoy. If Iran had bombed a humanitarian ship there would already be war, sanctions and 2 or 3 us aircraft carrier bombing night and day.

The annual defense budget of Iran is what US and Israel must spend on coca cola for the comfort of their armed forces personel. North Corea is supposed to be a nuclear country yet South Corea seems to be doing quite well for itself.

I recently read a article quoting the Israeli saying Iran can lauch a massive missile attack in 12 minutes against Isreal… lol I almost laugh myself to death. We’ve been there and we’ve seen that already. The infamous smoking gun of evidence that saddam could launch a WMD attack in less than 1 hour ?!! An air strike against Iran would just be a video game on easy mode. The only concern is the geo strategic repercussion.

Really? North Korea is supposed to be a nuclear country- what, the US smuggled a bomb into the north and detonated it and forced the north to say it was them?

The ’12 minute articule’ I read quoted an Iranian general, so I agree it is far from reliable:rolleyes:

PPP- with precision guided munitions, I would have thought 10 per target, but possibly 25 in total, 10 for a lesser site and 15 for Natanz.

Buran- Iran wont make the mistake of interferring to much in Iraq and A-stan again. enough important people in congress would push for massive retaliation.

January 6, 2011 at 7:46 am in reply to: Air War over Iran – Part 2 #2332217

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yeah, ok, Iran would sink a oil ship and justify Israels action.
A strike by Israel is a very real threat as long as there nut bag prsident threatens to ‘wipe Israel from the face of the word’

anyway

It would not surprise me to see Israel could reach into Iran effectively with a well protected package. A chance for Israeli EW technology to shine.

what mix of F-15I and F-16Is do people think would go

January 6, 2011 at 5:55 am in reply to: Air War over Iran – Part 2 #2332252

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Sorry mate but you may not have realised, but there already is a state of war between Israel and Iran.

For a one time or two time kinetic strike, Iran would not be able to respond well. MiG 29s, F-14s, it wouldn’t matter- Israels history in air combat and cutting edge technology will take care of that.

personally I think Israel could use 20 F-15Is and tankers and hit two targets in and out very well. I wouldnt be surprised to hear they are or have practised for it
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