Let’s not forget the origins of T-50 Golden Eagle originate from F-CK-1. The twin F125 powered layout is technically more friendly to develop being that foreign nations have been offered licensing rights to manufacture F125. Two of the more recent F125 is on par if not more powerful than a single F404 and near peer to F414. This is without all the bells and whistles of the F414’s 10:1 to 12:1 twr’s. Digital controls however have long since been assimilated into F125, which boosts the safety record yet further than single-engine deigns.
My only wonder is why not design from the onset for future conformal packs to bolster mission profiles. Modular pack design could offer fuel, internal bays, reconn packs, ECM-jammers, etc.
I have a feeling that idea will ultimately be its undoing.
The complexity of the tanks suggest all future fighters should focus on near CoG conformal or over-sized internal carriage considering the drag will always be there. No sense staying chained to underwing bottles that severely restrict your maneuvers and add tremendous wave-drag penalties in comparison.
I would imagine running single engined should have given a significant boost to its running time.
Better to buy 150 new ones than modernize 300 that already work and add meager capability.
I imagine that RB199’s spool up time couldn’t be that awful in comparison. The Lightning wasn’t designed with a very long fuselage and I am surprised how compact it is in comparison to other twin engine fighters. It basically has 50% more engine in the same volume as a MiG-19. Its no wonder why it was considered such a short legged fighter.
That picture really displays the madness of using rocket packs. I am too lazy to count or to look up how many are in such a configuration, but my wild guess is 170-ish. That’s a lot for throwing up in front of a bomber pack, but cannot imagine real effective in pursuit roles. There probably was a way to sling ten missiles in the same way, but the old saying goes not to put all your eggs into one basket. They most likely didn’t have enough missiles in the inventory to equip more than a pair at a time.



I don’t know why anyone would rejoice over that.
Stacked engines provided consistency for airflow between the two engines with a single, less problematic shock cone than what was possible by using side by side engines. Jet fighter designs were in their infancy and the engineering limitations were quickly evolving by the next decade.
Too bad they never figured out how to squeeze rb199’s into them while stringing out their useful lives.
OT, but look at the scale of the construction hidden in the fog behind the foreground.
Laser guided maverick. Who’d thunk of that? /rolls eyes
F-15C was well equipped for BVR in GW2.
It’s almost like Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld moved chess pieces on the whim of lobbyists. /whistles as he looks away
Could it be French subcontractors are causing the delays. The Rafale production is akin to corporate outsourcing. How many subcontractors see their production for future sales to be on the chopping block here? Much of this sale follows how industry shifted east and never was replaced or supplemented.
halloweene, i appreciate you entertaining JSR. But his original comment attacked Rafale for being low volume when the trend with Sukhoi aircraft is rapid change during production runs. Export customers are sustaining Russian fighter production. The weapon suites keep changing every few years so a multi year production run means multiple subtleties. The supply of missiles for export is hit or miss. Never mind I was talking about a steady supply of proven western missiles whereas he was talking how PAKFA was somehow high volume….
Can we all please click the complaint form to get the ones derailing the discussion with outlandish OT rambling a vacation? Such is derailing the thread. 😛
I don’t see what is high volume about Rafale. barely 30 or 40 more will be made for French and with super expensive weopons and upgrades. PAK-FA production is too last 40 years. so couple of thousands. Rafale is very risky deal. MIG-29 still in production but M2K line closed.
You do realize Rafale is compatible with NATO standards? It is not limited to propriety, rather the French choose to operate propriety. Their propriety is not NATO standard although ordinances like MICA can be integrated into other approved systems since they are Eurocentric in ownership.
My guess is the same as frank’s.
Perhaps a LAU-10 ZUNI launcher?
Bingo. It’s pretty clearly the lau-10.