All 92 on Syria-bound Russian military jet killed in crash, including 60 from Red Army Choir

The plane probably had 75% of its service life left. I wonder the cause

Always thought the Bucc was ugly as all sin, but beautiful in a special way.

Modern smart weapons would have been a good fit for it’s internal carriage and high-subsonic velocities down low on the deck.

Hu … what a funny thing ! :applause:

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I picked the wrong model. I don’t know if P&W fleshed the 600 family out past 2,100 pounds yet,but it was targeted at FJ44’s market with big savings in comparison. Their mid to upper end of the 500 family is more similar to the -4A model. Honeywell is very strong in that sector, too. And Honda is challenging the VLJ spectrum, too. Williams hasn’t really innovated to stay competitive. Wasn’t long ago they were king.

OT – The only Hawk that could realistically perform air defense was the 200.

I imagine the nose didn’t have to be anywhere near that large today. But being it was subsonic and fighters more or less need a dash speed to chase targets, still not worthwhile.

It did ONE role. But it did it well. Unfortunately it was extremely limited in practical use. Think of MiG-29A, only without helmet cued missiles. MiG-23M was probably the closest analogy in the west, but without STOL. But if flying high and fast – and relatively agile for it day – was your goal, then this is your machine.

If you are flying a LOAL engagement against a target that it beyond the Python 5’s seeker gimbal limits, the missile’s IMU needs to be given target data. But this does not have to come from a radar – a helmet mounted sight can be used, especially if the target is beyond the gimbal limits of the launch platform’s radar.

You’re probably correct in the sense of Jaguar, especially in a low altitude penetration role. Any time you can put LOAL in your quiver of tricks, I think you’re at an advantage. But a target of opportunity rarely pops up where you want it to be. If it gets WVR then helmet cued WVA gets you that much closer to survival

The original question here was talking about targeting aircraft in tight formation. I feel like this conversation has become forked by multiple ADHD sycophants. People are confusing what the differences are between search, track, targeting, and illumination. Mercurius asked a question just to make sure I was claiming what I was thinking. The rest seem to be either pitiful attempts to debate nonsense or in jest without humor.