Laser gyros are pretty neat technology. Unfortunately they aren’t the perfect solution for high speed weapons that fly on the edge of space.
The Russians also have a far different threshold for consideration to be labeled ‘precision’.
And let’s consider the ramifications of using this weapon in proximity to U.S. forces and its allies. If it’s flight is indistinguishable between conventional and nuclear roles, then basically deploying it says something to the effect ‘it may be an offensive nuclear launch’. Not the message they should send.
Ironically the same hypersonic super weapon flies at an altitude where command links would be a rather difficult engineering feat. So basically its launch and fly a pre-programmed course, which consequently must use something other than GLONASS for tracking position and for obvious reasons. Just how pinpoint has Russia’s non-GLONASS bombs been?
Sparrow I?
The hypersonic missile is tactically irrelevant on any scale beyond small niche work. You’re honestly going to lob one missile per sortie while the enemy is dropping a dozen glide bombs with precision per sortie. It makes about as much sense as their giant land-based cruise missiles being launched at Syria from within Russia. Sure they are big and scary, but they did virtually nothing in effect.
Let’s say Japan wanted a J-20 counter. Would it opt for something more compact, say in 20,000 kg class, or go head to head in a 30,000 kg class?
As interesting as a scaled down YF-23 using twin F414 sounds, I have a suspicion Japan is going for something F-22A comparable.
F15 and Tornado
Which version of Tornado?
Multipurpose, not really multirole. Sure you could conduct multiple roles on a mission, but not simultaneously. And generally the F-4 dumped bombs in order to fight, because its turning ability wasn’t its strength.
eagle’s choice of F-111F and F-15C is compelling.
But why not F-111F matched to F-14A? One common engine.
They are going F-35A. Anyone thinking otherwise is delusional.
Some of this new Russian stuff looks custom tailored for museums. Where is the real new stuff?
I’d of wanted an F-15C backed by F/A-18A instead of F-16 if money is no option.
The Russian narrative is strong in this thread. Trump wants out of Syria. His chief of staff and the Pentagon appear hell bent to be there. Jihadis require Satan to conquer it and it’s apparently the precursor to a reveal of Jesu there, so it’s rather inconvenient to remain or linger if we want peace in the region.
Chemical weapons against your civilians is also illegal by international law.
Before the design went to fixed intakes, the T-6 development airframes were faster. The write-ups about the project seem to describe problematic conditions with engines at high speed. It might be that the original engines guided the intake design and the change to new engines were at fault. Unfortunately there isn’t much public information on the engine-intake woes. The move to fixed inlets drastically cut it’s maximum speed. Even if it could hit well past Mach 2, it wasn’t much benefit considering most of its ordnance wasn’t rated for supersonic carriage.
Are you sure F-111 was fastest down on the deck? Over the years Tornado and Thunderchief crews all claimed to be speed champs on the deck. Real numbers will always be bar talk. They would never discuss combat conditions in the public realm, as that is strictly forbidden even years later.
@vann-
Wow, labeling me as living in the 1950’s… priceless. Does that make you a real keyboard warrior due to being from the age of the internet? Seriously, trying to ad hominem me with an age label not only is against forum rules, it’s also a blatant deflection. T-6, which is the origin of the Su-24, began as an offshoot of Su-15 scaled up and adding in technologies for short field performance. It started with a quad lifter arrangement and evolved to its current shape. Su-24 had 2/3 the range and payload, but enjoyed a big speed advantage over F-111.
@eagle-
You are arguing that a J75 proven motor with more performance and similar volume is somehow worse. Viggen was used in two roles, as an attack plane (e.g. F-105) and as an interceptor (e.g. F-106), which were roles J75 did well. And it greatly exceeded RM8 in performance for slightly worse fuel burn. And J75 came in substantially cheaper.
The RM8 was basically a J52 with an afterburner. It did have about 20% less fuel consumption across it’s upper performance range over J57. But the J57 was proven and much cheaper. A pair of J57 would have put it into a heavier weight class, with quite a bit more room to grow, for slightly more cost than a single RM8.
People have this notion Sweden built the RM8 when the truth is they modified imported engines. The truth is they could have just as easily imported TF30 or F100 from the U.S. or M53 from France. All of them would have been cheaper in the overall program.