Mirage F1/J79 with Kfir radar
Single engine L-15 trainer using underneath intake
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(C) Sebastien Toulouse
ILA Berlin Air Show 2014
It looks pretty straight forward, the intercept point would should only minor debris below it, as most of the plane would continue along it’s original path. A near hit weapon would have broken its back, shearing the wings off at the spars and perhaps large section of the tail. The main body would have imploded then slowly disintegrated as it descended, but follow a path much different than the tail parts and wings. The wings and engines were probably found in line with the plane flight path. The fuselage likely did not follow it closely as the mangled and less dense form would have curved. The parts of the plane closest to the impact point will give an idea where the plane was struck as these parts were stopped by the hit or at least scattered from it.
This whole idea that the fuselage was sawn in half would have been necessary to recover bodies.
It’s difficult to align Typhoon parts up to make a single engine variant. So how about a third engine, too?
Edit: Added Tomcat-Hornet hybrid and four-engined Fulcrum
The sad thing about this whole episode is that most BUK vehicles have not just an independent radar, but a secondary electro-optical telescope to zoom in on the target for visual confirmation. I think the whole episode reeks of amateurish warrior wannabes trying to bag the big one. And unfortunately a cut rate airline service decided to take a calculated risk to save a few farthings. It went south quickly from there.
I also think by the time guided bombs came about the idea of a tank horde busting through proved flawed in concept. Every LGB is an anti-tank weapon. There was a production run of ATGW’s in the tens of thousands per variant. I don’t think the tank horde was the threat. The nuclear-tipped IRBM and SRBM was always the threat. Attack helicopters were not solving that issue.
Lukos, don’t be dense. Support beams are not on the outside of the aircraft.
The piece has literally been turned inside out.
Attack helicopters are considered offensive, too. It would be against the nature of their post-WW2 treatise.
It’s a near miss type of warhead, generally it will exploded above a target to rob its lift at the same time trying to break its proverbial back – rather than try to pop off inside the target. This size warhead would easily fold the wings in half. A near hit or direct hit weapon would use a substantially smaller warhead.
Well, the KF-16 class is basically the same as the F-CK-1 class. F-35 is the weight of the F/A-18 with the power of the F-15K. Maybe it will be powered by 2x F125X engines with a pair roughly equal to one F100.
1. Hack between JAS39 and F-16
2. Starfighter crossed with F-106A
I doubt the Russian or Ukraine professionals pulled this off.
They don’t call the rebels terrorists for nothing. It’s an unfortunate atrocity. In hindsight many people could have prevented the whole thing from all parties military and civilian alike. The victims probably had no idea of the danger of this flight’s route and it was likely never revealed to them prior to leaving.
Rafale 2.0
Su-35 uses 117S, right? Same technology jump as the engine for PAKFA. So basically India has bought into a forty year old engine. At least with 117S or Al-31FM2 it’s a step forward. Welcome to 1970.
They probably could have saved money and had better engine choices by pitting GE and P&W against the 117S, Al-31FM1, and Al-31FM2 for new batch MKIs and Super 30 upgrades. Sure they wouldn’t be building their own, but building second rate engines isn’t a huge step forward. At least with an engine competition they kept ahead of the Chinese.
The Chinese are ahead with self sufficiency when it comes to radars. They are probably somewhat even in missiles. The avionics are both pretty even. They both have pretty similar aircraft, but in the future China’s Flankers should have an edge overall. If it wasn’t for Rafale the future would look bleak for the IAF.
M-345 and L-39NG are in the same weight class.
L-159A competes against Hawk trainers and somewhat against M-346.