rickusnAdditional Turkey:
F 495 Gediz (ex-US FFG 19)
F-496 Gokova (ex-US FFG 13)
F-497 Goseu ( ex-US FFG 15)
Taiwan:
1101 Cheung Kung
1103 Cheng Ho
1105 Chi kuang
1106 Yueh Fei
1107 Tzu I
1108 Pan Chao
1109 Chang Chien
1110 Tian Dan
USN(21):
Active:
FFG 8 MCINERNEY
FFG 32 JOHN L. HALL
FFG 33 JARRETT
FFG 36 UNDERWOOD
FFG 40 HALYBURTON
FFG 43 THACH
FFG 45 DE WERT
FFG 46 RENTZ
FFG 47 NICHOLAS
FFG 48 VANDEGRIFT
FFG 49 ROBERT G. BRADLEY
FFG 50 TAYLOR
FFG 51 GARY
FFG 52 CARR
FFG 53 HAWES
FFG 54 FORD
FFG 55 ELROD
FFG 57 REUBEN JAMES
FFG 58 SAMUEL B. ROBERTS
FFG 59 KAUFFMAN
FFG 61 INGRAHAM
NRF(9):
FFG 28 BOONE
FFG 29 STEPHEN W. GROVES
FFG 37 CROMMELIN
FFG 38 CURTS
FFG 39 DOYLE
FFG 41 MCCLUSKY
FFG 42 KLAKRING
FFG 56 SIMPSON
FFG 60 RODNEY M. DAVIS
rickusnGentlemen The forum is open.
“For now I have unlocked the navy subforum and you should be able to access any posts on there if you follow the links.”
Ive had no problem accessing it for about a day now.
Maybe you need a link?
rickusnHere are some other forums that deal with naval issues:
http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=22
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?f=19
http://p216.ezboard.com/bwarships1discussionboards
They are not for everybody but give you a pretty good selection along with the forums others have suggested.
rickusn“HMCS Montreal was the first Canadian Halifax-class frigate to complete modernization.”
“…Halifax-class destroyers, with HMCS Montreal the first to complete modernization.”
He said, see above, that Montreal was the first to be modernized not first of class(twice). Notice also “Canadian Halifax-class frigate”.
Although later in the section there was an error in describing them as destroyers, again see above.
rickusn“Is that the so called “Delta-Stretch”?”
No that would be the ex-K-129 a Delta III unit.
rickusn“Is that the so called “Delta-Stretch”?”
No that would be the ex-K-129 a Delta III unit.
rickusn“Where’s the seventh Delta IV? “
Warfare.Ru
“BS 64 Vladimir? SSBN Delta IV Feb 88 #402 Severodvinsk NOR
Laid: 11.84. Delta IV-3. ex-K 64. Since 1999 moderization to research laboratory at Zvezdochka. Renamed to BS-64. Launchers deleted from submarine. “
Although my Combat Fleets says it was “declared for scrap during 2-01”.
rickusn“Where’s the seventh Delta IV? “
Warfare.Ru
“BS 64 Vladimir? SSBN Delta IV Feb 88 #402 Severodvinsk NOR
Laid: 11.84. Delta IV-3. ex-K 64. Since 1999 moderization to research laboratory at Zvezdochka. Renamed to BS-64. Launchers deleted from submarine. “
Although my Combat Fleets says it was “declared for scrap during 2-01”.
rickusnI agree their forums are a place to stay away from.
However their database has recently been updated and I find it highly
reliable when compared to other sources.
The comments for individual ships whether listed as operational or non-operational are often illuminating.
rickusnI agree their forums are a place to stay away from.
However their database has recently been updated and I find it highly
reliable when compared to other sources.
The comments for individual ships whether listed as operational or non-operational are often illuminating.
rickusnGauntlet thats a great chart.
You may want to reconcile it and add notes from this source. It is up-to-date and very informative.:
State of the Russian Navy
rickusnGauntlet thats a great chart.
You may want to reconcile it and add notes from this source. It is up-to-date and very informative.:
State of the Russian Navy
rickusnGorshkov has been renamed: INS Vikramditya
Or do I understand you want her to be named INS Gorshkov?
rickusnAustin I dont know if youve been to this site on the Russian Navy but its seems to be very informative and more important up-to-date:
http://warfare.ru/?catid=243&linkid=1720
Heres a snippet from the site on the Project 22350:
Russian Ministry of Defense’s ships, sea armaments and defense technology purchases and delivery department signed a contract with the SV for the project 22350 head frigate construction.
Having signed this contract, the Navy started the second stage of its modernization program, according to which within the next few years they willl mainly order small ships for close and far sea zone, that is corvettes and frigates. The first ship to be constructed is project 22380 corvette «Steregushy» (the SV won the tender for this ship’s construction). The launching is planned for March of 2006. Besides, at the moment the SV is constructing three more ships for Russian Navy (two corvettes and one special intercommunication vessel). Two destroyers for Chinese Navy are already finished. One of them will be commissioned by the end of 2005, another – in first six months of 2006.
The project 22350 frigate is designed by Severnoe design office and purposed for anti-submarine and shock service. After a 15-year break it is the First Russian vessel for far sea zone. The frigate’s displacement is 4500 tons, its main weapon are eight ЗМ55 «Onyx» anti-ship missiles, a new 130-mm artillery plant A-192, anti-submarine missile complex «Medvedka 2», medium range antiaircraft missile complex «Uragan». The frigate will be laid down in 2006 and commissioned to the Navy in 2009.
According to the program, by 2015 the Navy need in project 22350 frigates is assessed in 10-20 ships. Military officials planned to start a tender for the lead ship construction still at the beginning of 2002. However, at that time the ship was not included to the state defense order. The main contenders for the frigate construction were plant «Yantar» in Kaliningrad, Baltiysky plant and the SV. The tender took place only in 2004-2005. The SV won it. By that time «Yantar» was already almost a bankrupt, so the only real contender for the SV was Baltiysky plant. The SV owners, United Industrial corporation (the UIC) turned to have more influence on officials than Baltiysky plant ones. The results of this very tender forced «IST» group to sell Baltiysky plant to the UIC, observers suppose.
Russia’s Navy is set to acquire 10 to 20 new battleships by 2015 that will set it back 5 to 10 billion rubles per frigate, Biznes, a business daily, reported.
“This is, in fact, a large destroyer that is called a ‘frigate’ for political reasons,” Mikhail Barabanov, scientific editor of Arms Exports magazine, said.
The new Mk 22350 multi-role and long-range frigate will conduct anti-submarine warfare (ASW) operations, hitting other naval targets. It will take three or four years to complete one frigate, if this project gets regular appropriations.
“Most likely, this project will feature engineering solutions that were used to build Mk 11356 frigates for the Indian Navy,” Konstantin Makiyenko, deputy director of the Center for Analyzing Strategies and Technologies, said.
rickusnAustin I dont know if youve been to this site on the Russian Navy but its seems to be very informative and more important up-to-date:
http://warfare.ru/?catid=243&linkid=1720
Heres a snippet from the site on the Project 22350:
Russian Ministry of Defense’s ships, sea armaments and defense technology purchases and delivery department signed a contract with the SV for the project 22350 head frigate construction.
Having signed this contract, the Navy started the second stage of its modernization program, according to which within the next few years they willl mainly order small ships for close and far sea zone, that is corvettes and frigates. The first ship to be constructed is project 22380 corvette «Steregushy» (the SV won the tender for this ship’s construction). The launching is planned for March of 2006. Besides, at the moment the SV is constructing three more ships for Russian Navy (two corvettes and one special intercommunication vessel). Two destroyers for Chinese Navy are already finished. One of them will be commissioned by the end of 2005, another – in first six months of 2006.
The project 22350 frigate is designed by Severnoe design office and purposed for anti-submarine and shock service. After a 15-year break it is the First Russian vessel for far sea zone. The frigate’s displacement is 4500 tons, its main weapon are eight ЗМ55 «Onyx» anti-ship missiles, a new 130-mm artillery plant A-192, anti-submarine missile complex «Medvedka 2», medium range antiaircraft missile complex «Uragan». The frigate will be laid down in 2006 and commissioned to the Navy in 2009.
According to the program, by 2015 the Navy need in project 22350 frigates is assessed in 10-20 ships. Military officials planned to start a tender for the lead ship construction still at the beginning of 2002. However, at that time the ship was not included to the state defense order. The main contenders for the frigate construction were plant «Yantar» in Kaliningrad, Baltiysky plant and the SV. The tender took place only in 2004-2005. The SV won it. By that time «Yantar» was already almost a bankrupt, so the only real contender for the SV was Baltiysky plant. The SV owners, United Industrial corporation (the UIC) turned to have more influence on officials than Baltiysky plant ones. The results of this very tender forced «IST» group to sell Baltiysky plant to the UIC, observers suppose.
Russia’s Navy is set to acquire 10 to 20 new battleships by 2015 that will set it back 5 to 10 billion rubles per frigate, Biznes, a business daily, reported.
“This is, in fact, a large destroyer that is called a ‘frigate’ for political reasons,” Mikhail Barabanov, scientific editor of Arms Exports magazine, said.
The new Mk 22350 multi-role and long-range frigate will conduct anti-submarine warfare (ASW) operations, hitting other naval targets. It will take three or four years to complete one frigate, if this project gets regular appropriations.
“Most likely, this project will feature engineering solutions that were used to build Mk 11356 frigates for the Indian Navy,” Konstantin Makiyenko, deputy director of the Center for Analyzing Strategies and Technologies, said.
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