I wasn’t involved with the Rebel Air Museum but I knew Stan and David well during their time at Historic Aircraft Museum, Southend.
Here it is in happier times (27 May 1972 … official opening of the HAM)
Just to set the record straight -The Proctor in the photo took on the identity of G-ANZJ / NP303. It was actually a composite airframe combining the fuelage of G-ANZJ with the wings of NP339/G-AOBW.
I think I posted before that the fuselage of G-AOBW was sawn in half and the rear fuselage with the fin and tailplane was stripped to show the structure. It was exhibited at various places prior to the museum opening including South Essex Motors at Basildon and probably a North Weald airshow but it needed regualr repairs due to glue rot. We burnt the front fuselage (except for the 24 volts door which I managed to rescue) some time before the museum opened.
The composite NP303/G-ANZJ was sold at the museum auction. I think Trent Aero bought it then found it was so far gone that an airworthy restoration was too difficult. I heard it passed to someone who wanted the engine and the rest was burnt early/mid 1980s.
I never did find out what happened to the original wings from G-ANZJ. Last I saw of them they were in the hangar the museum rented on the airport site in the block between the back of the Airport Hotel and the old Tradair hangar.
What happened to the E111 ,2nd picture,lovely looking plane-well i think so.
That looks like the E111 replica built and operated by Personal Plane Services from Booker – G-AVJO?
I think I may have read on another thread that the fuselage was lengthened to improve the handling but it is possible I have got that wrong.
I believe PPS still own the E111 and there was talk a while ago of moving the E111 and the other WW1 replicas owned by PPS to Stow Maries but plans changed at Stow Maries when the owner became ill and I am pretty sure that, so far, the move has never gone ahead.
The Gunbus is the replica built in the 60’s by the Group at Weybridge that also built the Vimy replica. The Gunbus was a regular particpant at displays and even starred in Candid Camera filmed at Southend. There never seemed to be any great problem with transit flights even though it had an original Le Rhone rotary. Both the Gunbus and Vimy are now on display at Hendon.
Been involved in other things so not had much time to visit the forum lately but I would like to add my thanks to those who have kept us all informed of the comings and goings at Duxford this year.
I have only managed one visit in 2013 and my only other aviation trip this year was to Old Warden but hope to get out more often next year.
Thanks again and hope you all have a great Christmas and 2014 is a good year for everyone.
Thanks for the updates and for the clarification of the surviving Q6s in the 1960’s.
I think it is fair to say that the really hard part of any vintage aircraft restoration is only over when the aircraft has been flown and certified then keeping them in the air is probably a little less full on but still time consuming and expensive.
Great to see the restoration progressing so well. As a teenager this was another aircraft that I tried to persuade the owners of the Southend museum to save but there were so many less complex projects around at that time that an incomplete Q6 was regarded as way beyond restoration and my pleas fell on deaf ears.
Really looking forward to the day when she flies again.
Wasn’t there a second Q6 G-AEYE with the technical college at Redhill in the 60’s / 70’s?
A group from Historic Aircraft Museum which included Bill Gent and Stan and David Brett and possibly Alan Jasper and others visited a JU-88 on Buxey Sands in August 1972. The museum newsletter says that they recovered a crew seat, some cockpit framing and a pair of radiators but I also remember a first aid / surgeons kit still in a leather wallet which included some rather nasty looking saws. It is possible the recovered parts were passed on to ERG after the museum closed.
As far as I remember they said that there wasn’t time to recover very much as the sands aren’t uncovered for long at low tide and it has a reputation as a pretty dodgy area because the tides are very unpredictable.
I think most enthusiasts are aware that a lot of new material went into EXF when she was rebuilt by Tom Storey and Martin Barraclough and no doubt even more has been incorporated during subsequent rebuilds and repairs but if the options are EXF as she is today or trying to preserve the remains as they were at Reflectaire I know which option gets my vote and undoubtedly the vote of many others who enjoy the sight and sound of her in the air.
The “new” Mew looks superb and hopefully we will see the pair of them together at some time next display season.
Pleased to hear that she is returning to Old Warden as she is much missed by myself and I am sure by many others.
It is probably fair to say that EXF has never had an easy life in preservation. I seem to remember that her wings got sawn in half during her days at Blackpool and after Tom Storey restored her she was badly damaged when she was hit by a taxying spam can at Redhill.
There was talk of her being a write off but she was rebuilt again and subsequently she was badly damaged again in a landing accident at Redhill when Desmond Penrose was demonstrating her for prospective buyer. As far as I remember The pilot was not aware that a ditch had been dug across the runway at Redhill as part of some building work and unfortunately he found the ditch during the landing run causing extensive damage.
I believe Desmond Penrose felt responsible for the accident and as a result bought the wreck and rebuilt her again only to suffer the accident at Old Warden.
It is thanks to the exceptional dedication of a couple of owners that she is still flying and I look forward to hopefully seeing her back at Old Warden for next years display season.
I believe DXS was built by Chris Storey. He certainly owned it early 60’s onwards and when I was very young it was displayed in Storeys garage in Alexandra Street, Southend. It was loaned to the Historic Aircraft Museum, Southend by his widow Gwen Storey and, at first, it was kept in the hangar which the museum rented on the airfield along with the Fiat G46 and Proctor G-ANZJ. Stampe F-BDFE and Tiger Moth G-APMM were also stored in the rented hangar at one time but both moved on without being displayed.
DXS was used for an exhibition at South Essex Motors to publicise the museum before we opened and was also displayed on the museum stand at a North weald airshow around 1971/2 to publicise the museum before moving into the display hall when we opened.
The Flea remained at HAM right up until the museum closed and I think it then went to Rebel Air Museum and later Thameside Aviation Museum at Tilbury Fort.
Not sure what happened after that but I assume the Storey family parted with “The Fleeing Fly” at some point and it eventually landed up at Breighton.
You could probably arrange a visit to Great Oakley to view the Proctor restorations as well.
I can give you a contact for an old friend in the Southend area who moved the two Proctors from Sweden to Great Oakley but it would have to be a commercial deal as that is how he earns his living.
I would have been glad to help the Tilbury end but I have just had an operation on my dodgy knee and am on crutches for a while so I am no good for lifting and carrying anything at present.
I really hope I get the chance to see this one fly. The Golden Age and Goodyear Trophy racers have always fascinated me and I never thought there was the remotest chance of seeing and Golden Age Racer in flight this side of the “pond.”
According to Wikipedia the Hall Cherokee 2 was a fair performer and looks pretty good. There don’t seem to be many survivors so well done for saving this one. Apart from the efforts of a few forum members I think gliders generally tend to get a pretty raw deal in preservation.
I have to agree that Ebay is definitely not the place to sell these.
I don’t know why but many good quality collectables don’t seem to acheive good prices on Ebay and conversely some buyers seem to pay a lot of money for poorer quality items.
The big auction houses who are likely to get you a good price tend to charge a fortune in fees and commission.
I can put you in touch with an aviation art dealer who is also an aviation artist who may be prepared to sell them on commission but I am not sure that he will have the funds to buy them. If you are interested please send a PM.