An update would probably help ensure that donations continue as well. The initial euphoria when the project was announced undoubtedly meant that a good few enthusiasts put their hand in their pocket but with no updates many potential donors may be wondering what is going on. It could very easily look like that the project has ground to a halt and this will make potential donors reluctant to part with their cash.
I appreciate the complexity of the recovery but even a few lines saying that a lifting frame is being designed/built and a few other bits and pieces to show that things are still moving on must help maintain interest in the project.
Great to see SNAFU is finally flying.
I also thought a Duxford trip was on the cards today but due to a misunderstanding it turned out the trip was to Hendon and Duxford is in a few weeks time.
Ironically I didn’t go today anyway as I have been suffering from a chest infection. Had the trip been to Duxford I would have pretty miffed at missing the first flight.
Good to see things progressing so well. KEX has moved on a long way from that broken fuselage that we battled to get through the door of the workshop a while ago now.
Always happy to help but please no one ask me to store a complete B.747 in the garage as it won’t fit although I might manage a Pou Du Ciel at a push. Glad they have found their way to someone who can use them.
Thanks for that. Shame it isn’t in the UK. The Pitts design is old enough to qualify for a place in the collection at Old Warden now and there would have been no better candidate than one which was “built on the premises”.
Sorry I couldn’t be more help. I was hoping that it was something a bit more exotic than a Cessna 150 and that it was still there. Harty Ferry / Leysdown is literallly opposite me on the Thames estuary and I was hoping for headlines along the lines of ” Buried Smugglers Aircraft Reclaimed From The Sea” but it is not to be.
By the way I think we can fairly safely say that illegal immigrants were not involved as there aren’t many places to hide them in a Cessna 150 unless it was specifically stolen by illegals to get to England. No doubt more will be revealed when the newspaper archive is up and running.
This helps a bit but no mention of smuggling or illegal immigrants
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1968/1968%20-%200304.html
At http://www.kentonline.co.uk they say that all Kent newspapers archives are to be available free online. I should think the Kent Messenger would have reported the incident so when the archive is ready you may find more there.
John Jordan’s Pitts S-1 was also used as a static display piece.

Biggin Hill 18 May 1974 – the only time I ever saw the S1. I believe it was built at Old Warden but have no idea of its ultimate fate.
Apologies for the quality – scanned from the original print and taken with a Boots instamatic camera so it wasn’t good in the first place.
If anyone wants these panels but can’t collect within a week I will gladly put them in my garage for a while. I live on Canvey Island so I can’t be too far away from Jamie-Southend and would hate to see them thrown away if they are of use to anyone..
If you need my help just drop me a PM.
http://www.benfleethistory.org.uk/page_id__159_path__0p4p.aspx
This could well be the incident referred to in post 13 where the pilot ejected. One of the people who helps run Castlepoint Transport Museum witnessed this crash as a boy and I managed to find out more about it for him.
As a result of my original post I received a PM via this forum from the pilot as below:
I have recently joined this Key Publishing forum and seen your comments about the above crash. I am John Miller, the pilot of that Meteor. As you know the crash occurred near Southend. I was taken to Southend Hospital. I recovered from my inuries and subsequently went on to fly Hunters, Canberras, Valiants and Vulcans. I left the Royal Air Force in 1969.
The cause of the accident was a turbine disc failure in the starboard engine which disintegrated and set fire to the fuel tanks. The fire was the cause of my hasty exit.
Dusty Miller
Thanks again to John Miller for bothering to get in touch. I printed out your posting and passed it to Keith at Castlepoint Transport Museum who was very surprised and pleased to get the pilots account of the incident.
They definitely appeared at the display to celebrate the opening of the Southend Museum. They still had Stampes at that time. I was an attendant at the display and the wind was gusting to about 35 knots which was very marginal for getting them off the ground safely so they had a ground handler on each wingtip and we had to run with them along the runway until the pilot put his hand in the air.
The Stampes had been tied down with the usual oil drums filled with concrete and as I was walking past the wind gusted and lifted the port wing on one aircraft. The metal tiedown loop on the top of the drum on the other wing went clean through the fabric. I found Stebby who was in charge of our group of ex Channel Airways engineers and he sent me off on my pushbike to get pinking shears, fabric and a can of dope and after making sure there was no structual damage we sorted out a repair patch. When the pilot arrived to do his pre-flight we explained to him what had happened and he seemed quite happy with the temporary repair.
Stebby reckoned I saved the day – had the pilot found the damage on his pre-flight the display would have beeen scrubbed. My reward was the job as ground handler with a briefing by Manx Kelly.
Not exactly a huge claim to fame but something I will always remember.
It does ring a bell that they did at least one seafront display with the Pitts S2As and that it may have been connected with promoting what was then the Westcliff Leisure Centre (now the Westcliff Casino).
You could try the Pprune forum which had a special thread on the Rothmans team with contributions from many people who flew or were associated with the team.
We have never met but it is obvious from the posts here that you are highly regarded among those collectors who do know you. All the very best for a full and quick recovery.
This years Sywell Show is £15 if you buy your ticket early, and thats for a three and a half hrs display including the Red Arrows. Non profit making as all the profits go to the local Air Ambulance.
Although to be perfectly honest reading most of the posts here I wonder why we bother!!
If you are not happy with whats on offer then try running your own, maybe then you will understand the costs and hard work and hasell that is involved in putting a show on.
You seem to have misunderstood. I would prefer to visit Sywell than one of the massive shows like RIAT. Sywell is about 220 miles for the round trip – roughly the same as Old Warden – which means that the admission, petrol and something to eat for my other half and I isn’t going to leave much change from £100 and that is £100 that I simply don’t have.
In the past I have been involved in running motorcycle events so I am well aware of the costs, work and hassle in running any event but with the current financial squeeze I am sure many others, like myself, get left with little spare money at the end of each month. If I don’t have the money in the first place I can’t spend it.
One option is to join those who stand outside and watch from the boundary hedge but there is no way I would join the freeloaders out there. If I ever take photos from outside the airfield at Old Warden or any other show I ALWAYS pay my admission and make my way back to a good spot for photos simply because I want to do my bit to make sure that displays continue and that goes for all displays regardless of the airfield.
I have no problem with airshows being run for profit. I will happily part with my entrance fee for Old Warden knowing that the profit goes back into maintaining the collection. The problem for me is that partly due to an increase in running costs airshow prices have risen sharply in recent years but my wages have remained pretty static.
I actually have significantly less take home pay now than I did 10 years ago when it was about £12 – £15 to get in to a display at Old Warden!
The increased admission charges combined with huge increases in petrol costs mean that I simply can’t afford to visit so many shows now and unfortunately I don’t see this changing in the forseeable future.
I would be extremely sorry to see the Ambassador evicted from the hangar after all the hard work that has gone into the restoration. I know that the airliners don’t fit in with the remit of IWM but they have been there a long time and are rare survivors which should be treasured. I do get the impression at times that at present they are merely tolerated.