Beautiful aircraft. I remember seeing a pic of it in flight with the Shuttleworth example a long time ago.
That would have been 31 May 1987 (doesn’t seem possible it was that long ago) the same day as I took the static picture.
Sadly I didn’t get a picture of the pair together but I do remember that when they were side by side on the ground the SE-5E didn’t look quite right. After a while it dawned that being a new restoration it had pristine cowling panels with none of the small dings and other patina that come from years of flying so it had yet to reacquire that “character” that the well used Shuttleworth aircraft have.
It is a great pity that the remaining airrcraft from the Arnold collection are hidden away but Doug Arnold did seem to be renowned for the reclusive nature of his aircraft. At the end of the day it is the owners choice but surely it would be less expensive to have them displayed somewhere rather than have them hidden in a bunker which must have expensive climatic control equipment which needs to be run and maintained.
I think that must have been B4863 / G-BLXT. I think it was ex Wing and Wheels Museum in the USA and according to the commentator at Old Warden it was meant to be returning to the USA soon after it displayed there so I am surprised to learn that it is still in the UK..

Old Warden 31 May 1987 and a successful attempt to get the engine started.

and Cranfield on 5 July 1987 which must have been the PFA Rally.
Apologies for the dust but these were a quick scan and upload.
At the end of the day all airshows carry a certain amount of risk and by the law of averages things will go wrong on occassions. Fortunately in modern times with modern safety rules accidents are rarer but no amount of safety rules and legislation can ever guard against unexpected mechanical failures or the fact that pilots are just as capable of making mistakes as the rest of us no matter how well they are trained.
The death of the wingwalker and the Pitts pilot are both very sad but climbing from an aeroplane to a helicopter and low level aerobatics both carry a risk. Presumerably both performers were comfortable with that risk otherwise they wouldn’t have conceived their acts in the first place and I can only assume that the safety people at each show were also happy with the level of risk.
The loss of Red 4 was also very sad and because the Red Arrows perform so many displays with no problems an accident like this comes as a shock to everyone but his wife summed it up when she said that he had at least died doing something he loved.
My condolences go out to the families and all those who knew any of these performers and I also spare a thought for those who witnessed the accidents as, having been in that situation, I know it can be a traumatic experience but I am sure that none of those who lost their lives would wish to see an end to airshows and I suspect that most of those who witnessed the accidents will feel much the same once they have recovered from the initial shock.
Airshows bring a great deal of pleasure to a lot of people and long may they continue.
It appears from the pictures and report that the pilot managed to get out so hopefully he is OK.
I can’t comment on the involvement of Tangmere1940 with previous jumbles at Brooklands as I have absolutely no idea how they worked together but it is good to see that someone involved with Brooklands made the effort to post and try to explain the situation.
I am too far away to have any involvement but it does seem that an opportunity is being lost for an aviation section at the Brooklands event which would benefit both the organisers and sellers. Hopefully Fasteddie will be able to work with some of the interested parties here to improve the aviation section in future jumbles for the benefit of both the museum and traders.
Brooklands is a unique place and needs all the help it can get to be able to conserve and improve the museum and the facilities.
Bernie isn’t responsible on his own for all the rule changes but he did turn F1 into a business that earnt himself an awful lot of money. He once said in a interview in Autosport that it was the power as much as the money that he enjoyed. Some of his input into F1 was constructive but in other ways he has ruled with an iron hand that has upset many over the years – the stories are numerous and at times almost unbelievable. If it is true that he is selling his shares then I suspect there won’t be too many people who will shed a tear.
Bernie isn’t responsible on his own for all the rule changes but he did turn F1 into a business that earnt himself an awful lot of money. He once said in a interview in Autosport that it was the power as much as the money that he enjoyed. Some of his input into F1 was constructive but in other ways he has ruled with an iron hand that has upset many over the years – the stories are numerous and at times almost unbelievable. If it is true that he is selling his shares then I suspect there won’t be too many people who will shed a tear.
I’m also in agreement that the ‘Beacon’ is a poor choice for displaying the BoB airframes.
I think the “Beacon” would be a poor choice to display ANY aircraft. I have to agree that a hangar wins all round as the same cost would probably buy far more display space for airframes than an “icon” building and would give more scope for moving around and alternatiing exhibits to keep the museum fresh and encourage repeat visits.
My views are:-
Scrap the Battle of Britain beacon and go with a “normal” display hall to provide more space.
Raise the Dornier while there is still a chance of obtaining an example of an extinct type then look at conservation / restoration which admittedly will pose some problems with a salt water recovery.
Ensure proper storage and conservation of the other projects listed and rebuild / restore as time and money permits.
I do appreciate that there is already a long queue of projects but as others have said they are all safe – the remains of the Dornier need to be safe to have any chance of saving it for the future.
Incidentally I understood that the LVG came back from Old Warden supposedly to go into the Milestones of Flight gallery. It looked fine last time I saw it at Shuttleworth so why does it now need restoring?
As Bruce said it is a very small site which never had a runway as the prototype Mosquito wnet to Hatfield for the first flight but over the years thay have worked really hard to get a hangar up although they really need a bit more space.
There didn’t seem to be much happening with the prototype Mosquito. I think it is a slow but sure restoration making sure that everything is carefully recorded along the way. After all they are dealing with a unique prototype which hasn’t been dismantled for a very long time.
On a positive note it does mention that it relies on donations and income from airshows to earn the money to keep flying so there was at least a bit of publicity abouth the fact that 558 continues to need donations to stay in the air. You know what they say – there is no such thing as bad publicity!
My first digital was a Fuji Finepix which still works fine after 7 or 8 years. It was bought for photos for Ebay listings and was ideal for the job but I got really frustrated when I started going to airshows again and tried to take flying shots as it just doesn’t focus fast enough ( not even fast enough for a Bristol Boxkite at times) although more modern bridge cameras probably focus much faster.
I picked up a Canon EOS20D second hand on Ebay for £230. I am still learning to use it but am pleased with the results so far – any problems being down to operator error and not to the camera.
I know buying secondhand is a risk but at least you do get some comeback if you pay through paypal and the one I bought was only 30 mins drive away so I collected it rather than have it posted. If you buy from a dealer you will pay more but usually get at least some guarantee.
Mine came with a brand new standard zoom (18-55) which doesn’t seem to very popular with the reviewers in some of the camera mags but I can’t honestly say that I have had any problems with it.
The disadvantage is that until you can afford a bigger lens you won’t be able to do much in the way of flying shots but you will need a DSLR to have any chance of good flying shots and at least you will have taken the 1st step rather than buying a bridge camera which has no option to add a longer / better quality lens and will probably have lost most of its value when you come to sell and upgrade again.
I went with Canon because after 30+ years of using Canon film cameras I have always found them to be reliable and well built but the same principles apply to any of the major DSLR brands.
Whatever you decide to go with make sure you have a good look at all your options rather than rushing at the first thing that comes along.
You can get blank decal paper for inkjet printers to make your own decals but you need to spray the finished decals with a couple of thin coats of varnish from a car spray can after printing to stop them running. If you have a laser printer I think you can get paper which doesn’t need a varnish coat.
The hard bit is producing the artwork sizing it to fit the model and getting the right colour hues when you print them out. Working out shapes to get the right fit for decals to go round curves is one of the real nightmares. I have had a little dabble on a few occassions but ran out of image manipulation skills
Bet all those budding artists were well pleased when their subjects got moved!!!!!
There was quite a mix of budding and very well known artists. Everyone was told at the start of the day that some aircraft would be moving but I don’t think even the museum staff realised just how much work was going to be needed as everything that they moved seemed to get in the way of something else – not an uncommon problem when moving aircraft in a confined space. Someone did remark that I got the best part of the deal as all the movements improved the photo opportunities no end and those I posted here were just a few of those I took during the day.
I have been a guest (through a friend) at several of the Guild days out over the past couple of years and even though I readily admit to having minimal artistic ability and just wander around with my camera I have always found them to be a friendly welcoming group.
Thanks Bruce. I must admit space was very tight and a wrong move could very easily have damaged the Mosquito. Thinking about it for much of the move there probably wasn’t even enough room to get the tug attached to the aeroplane.