The Blue Tit was a resident of the famous Shuttleworth barn and it never got to the front of the queue for any restoration work. As far as I remember Shuttleworth only ever had the fuselage and possibly the tail unit. I think the wing had disappeared at some point before it went to Old Warden but if another forum member can confirm or disprove this and perhaps add some more info then that would be great.
I must admit I hadn’t realised that Shuttleworth had ever parted with the Blue Tit. I presume it was one of the casualties along with their original Provost and the Percival Gull when the collection fell on particularly hard times in the 80’s /90’s.
My main suggestions would be to ensure that it is possible to open all the exhibition halls all day every day (except for times when maintanance may make this impossible) and encourage the staff to be approachable and get them to interact with the visitors and answer their questions.
I wrote in another post about my last visit to the Science Museum when a young lad was asking his dad which was a Spitfire and which was a Hurricane. The staff showed no inclination to help. A couple of minutes explaining that a basic and very obvious difference was that the Spitfire had pointy wings led to a few other questions and at the end of our conversation Dad thanked me and they both walked away happy and hopefully with a little more knowledge that added to their enjoyment of the day.
There is much made of the need for museums to educate and a few knowledgable and approachable staff will go a long way towards acheiving this aim and at far less cost than an “iconic” building with aircraft hung at crazy angles.
The Musee De L’Air example would be the obvious candidate for any return to flight as I think it has been under cover ever since it was retired and if it happens then good luck to them.
Concorde was an icon of it’s era and was one of the early steps in what was meant to be a brave new world of super technology that never quite seems to have accomplished everything that was promised (not yet anyway).
OK it apparently never made a profit but it was a beautiful and unique airliner the like of which we may never see again.
I agree that there are other worthy projects out there that need a fraction of the likely cost but the truth is that the money would never be diverted to other projects and from what I understand they aren’t asking for public donations either.
If anyone could get a Concorde flying again the French have to be the most likely candidates as they have a unique ability to interpret any rules in a way which best suits themselves – a trait which can be very frustrating at times but equally can be very useful if you happen to be in the right place at the right time.
Glad to see she is on her way back. If anyone wants a price for moving a similar sized aircraft then the gent in the short sleeved shirt in the first pic is a friend of mine and I will gladly put you in touch. He has moved both of Mike’s Proctors now and if Mike let him loose a second time he can’t be bad at the job.
The Typhoon did a practice display at Southend at about 4.30 this evening followed by the Hawk. I was pretty annoyed at being delayed leaving work but the delay meant I was driving along the seafront as the Typhoon finished so it wasn’t so bad after all.
Will it be at L……..:D
No Rumour has it there are paperwork issues with the CAA (who regard it as a new type) and it may never be allowed to fly in the UK again.
Pierre Picton has his won website which gives details of all the Chitty versions built for the film.
Most likely Motorcycle and Light Car Club as many motorcyclists progressed to three wheelers and it would originally have covered 3 wheelers like the Morgan and BSA although later motorcyclists “progressed” – or was it regressed- to Reliant Regals and Robins. Don’t get me wrong they did exactly what it said on the tin (or was it fibreglass) but a Reliant was never going to be as much fun as a motorcycle.
As has been said before the thing is a monstrosity which is totally inappropriate for that site and, given the current staffing problems, I assume it is very likely to be closed for a majortiy of the time anyway so how will it ever inspire anyone at all.
If £80M was available it should have been spent preserving Hendon airfield and making it into a kind of RAF Museum version of Duxford but without operational aircraft as the surroundings appear to preclude operations from Hendon. That would have given a site with ample scope to inspire and educate the public.
The opportunity to do this has passed so the money should be spent refurbishing and maintaining the current buildings, tidying up the aircraft (some of which still bear the scars of bodges which passed for restoration 40 odd years ago when the preservation movement was in its infancy) and ensuring the place has sufficient staff to open all the exhibition areas all the time.
I don’t know quite how we should classify individual aircraft in terms of describing them as an artefact but there is one significant factor that no one has mentioned.
When we talk about preserving artefacts such as a roman statue or vase we can achieve this quite easily by keeping them in a suitable controlled climate to minimise deterioration but in the case of aircraft particularly large airframes the situation is rather different.
My understanding is that an aircraft simply sitting on the ground is subject to significant stress in various areas due to loads placed on the airframe by the weight of the structure and engines etc. Given sufficient time these loads will cause fatigue and the airframe or parts of it will fail unless it is maintained.
The first thing that springs to mind is the problems with oleos and flat spotted tyres on aircraft which have stood for long periods and I have even heard of the possibility of wing spars and longerons becoming bowed given sufficient time.
I also read that the Halifax at Hendon has decayed significantly while on display simply because it has been impossible to completely arrest the problems caused by such a long period immersed in water and it various methods have been tried to arrest this process all of which inevitably affect the originality of the artefact to some extent.
For these reasons I don’t think we can apply the same rules to aircraft (or even to other mechanical objects such as cars and railway engines) as we would apply to many other artefacts because at some point any aircraft cars etc will need significant intervention to ensure their continued existence and this intervention is sure to take away some of the originality.
I am not saying that any particular approach is right or wrong but simply that this is a problem which has no simple answer and I think that all individual museums and owners can do is work to preserve in the way that they think is best.
Incidentally CADman I should think that the reason for changing the rivets on the Spitfire was to prevent dissimilar metals corrosion between the magnesium and the alloy skin. I wouldn’t be surprised if many statics have also had rivets replaced with alloy ones when skin sections have needed replacement or reattachment as I would think that the reaction between magnesium and other metals must be very corrosive particularly if an airframe spends long periods outside. Perhaps someone with more knowledge can confirm this or shoot my theory to bits.
My understanding has always been that banner towing requires a skilled pilot and that the main problem is likely to be drag caused by the banner rather than any problem in lifting the weight of the banner but I am not a pilot so maybe I have misunderstood.
It is good to see that the two occupants of the Wilga escaped even though they were injured but the section below taken from the CAA regulations does make me wonder what the leader of the UKIP was doing aboard the aircraft unless he is a qualified pilot with the appropriate experience to assist in the banner towing operation.
(6) No person other than crew members directly involved in conducting banner tow operations shall be carried on board the aircraft involved in towing a banner
No doubt all will be revealed after the CAA investigation.
Hope this helps
http://www.sflorg.com/aviation_gallery/historical/historical_05
Maybe not a rock or film star, but Ron Flockhart of racing car fame, owned and flew Bellanca Cruisair G-AREY.
Ron Flockhart may not have owned but certainly flew CAC built Mustang G-ARKD on an attempt to break the Sydney to London record which was abandoned at Athens due to engine problems. Mustang VH-UWB was acquired for a further attempt on the same record but but Flockhart was killed when it crashed in bad weather during a test flight on 12 April 1962.
Apart from serving in the RCAF and selling aircraft, didn’t Hughie Green own a Grumman Mallard?
Not sure about a Mallard but Hughie Green was supposedly the owner of Catalina G-APZA that was broken up at Southend as has been mentioned on other threads here.
Looks like the Viking (or is it a Valetta) could benefit from a little TLC as well. Lets hope it is in the queue with the Lincoln.