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    When I was young I lived around a mile out from the end the main runway at Southend Airport and we used to get Carvairs, Bristol freighters etc on finals literally over the house next door but one. By the time they got to the far side of the park opposite our house it felt like you could resch up and touch the aircraft. I had always been interested in aviation but the move to that house was the real catalyst that fuelled the interest.
    Even in those days we had neighbours who objected to the airport. One neighbour who had been quite a vocal protestor came round with a petiton because he was convinced that all the “small aeroplanes” had been told to turn off their engine over the park when climbing out and then dive directly at his house to scare him. I did explain that what he witnessed was standard training for an engine failure on take off and that it was in his interests that pilots underwent this form of training as it meant they would be better equipped to find somewhere other than his roof to perform a forced landing if the worst did happen and that the large area of allotments behind his house was probably one of the better alternatives (along with the park) which was probably the reason why they seemed to dive at his house. He went away very annoyed but also a bit chastened and we heard no more of the petition.
    There is also a lot of opposition from thise living close to Southend airport to the new expansion plans. truth is that if the anti jet lobby in the late 60s had allowed the longer runway on the site of the now disused 33/15 to go ahead we would have had a thriving airport years ago and much of the take off and landing paths would have been over comparatively unpopulated areas rather than over the densely populated areas that will have to be overflown if the new development goes ahead.
    The worst anti aircraft protest I ever heard of was a more physical protest. I did hear that in the late 70’s early 80’s a new housing development was built under the approach to Panshanger. I was told that some of the early residents of the new development used to grab bricks from the building site and throw them at aircraft on finals. Just goes to show how stupid some people can be!

    in reply to: Help save Davidstow airfield!! #1211176
    WJ244
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    Davidstow rang a bell from a book I bought last year about disused motor racing circuits. Apparently it was used as a race circuit from 1952 to 54. The book claims it was/is 970 ft above sea level – suppossedly the highest operational airfield in the UK during WW2 and the GI’s stationed there hated the place because it was prone to heavy rain and gales which came straight in off the Atlantic.
    I was a bit surprised to hear it is still in use but, particularly in a county where airfields airfiels tend to be few and ar between it seems a huge shame to lose what is obviously a well used and popular airfield and leisure facility. Surely there are alternative sites for wind farms. What is wrong with the offshore solution proposed for other parts of the country. If they can find room in the Thames estuary/North Sea for a wind farm then I am sure there must be a bit of space in the Atlantic.

    in reply to: Chirk Rapides #1176944
    WJ244
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    Autocrat You are quite right T5968 was G-ANNN – I knew it was allocated a civil registration but couldn’t remember what it was after all these years. I am amazed that it survives. I used to pass the fuselage frame regularly every weekend going from the hangar where we kept the Fiat G46 and Stampe French AF 609 (allocated G-AYHV) and worked on Proctor NP303/G-ANZJ to the main museum building. All I ever saw was the fuselage but maybe the wings were in there somewhere.
    The scrap hangar was a real aladdins cave.As far as I remember it contained Vikings G-APOP and G-APOO, Dove AP-AGJ, at least one Dakota and the Rapides, Tiger Moth and probably others which I have forgotten. Several other Daks were parked outside but I seem to remember that most had no wheels and were stood on their UC legs. It was a quiet and quite ghostly place where every little noise echoed around the building.
    In the grass round the back was the fuselage frame and uncovered wings of Short Scion G-AEZF.
    When I first saw this in about 1968 the frame and wing structures were intact but after Channel Airways folded the wings got flattened – allegedly someone drove a tractor over them – and at some point the fuselage was sawn in half.
    I know the museum eventually recovered the fuselage but I don’t know if they got the wings. As far as I remember the tail unit wasn’t there in the first place. I was told at the time that Jack Jones hung on to much of the contents with the intention of starting a museum but sadly it never happened and most of the contents went to the scrapman.

    in reply to: Chirk Rapides #1177915
    WJ244
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    I understood the cache at Chirk included the remains of the ex Channel Airways Rapides G-AEMH and G-AKRN which came out of what was known as the scrap hangar at Southend after Channel Airways went bust. They were in a bad way when I saw them outside when the scrap hangar was being cleared in the 70’s but were probably no worse than some of the other restos that have been tackled. If they are not at Chirk now then does anyone know what happened to them.
    There was also a Tiger Moth fuselage (T5968?) which came out of the same hangar but I think that got scrapped.

    in reply to: Lancaster NF920 Easy Elsie Wreck In Laponia(2007) #1185648
    WJ244
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    There are arguements for leaving wrecks in situ but with the current high price of scrap metal it is likely that any wreck left in situ will be cleared by someone with no regard for the history of the site.
    It is also worth bearing in mind that many sites are inaccesible to many of us so I would rather see parts from several wreck sites combined to make one aircraft then several wrecks slowly but surely disappearing through the actions of scrap dealers and souvenir hunters.
    The integration of new material into a wrecked airframe is also a thorny subject. As an example I believe that the Brooklands Wellington uses a good deal of new material but having been given a guided tour during restoration and having seen the finished job it is a magnificent piece of work and I, for one, prefer to see a complete aircraft standing in the hangar rather than a heap of bits (many of which would be unrecognisable to the general public) as recovered from the bottom of Loch Ness.
    Anyone who has looked at the website covering the restoration of Bluebird K7 can’t fail to be impressed by the work that has gone into the project. They have made huge efforts to reuse original material but as I understand it much of the front of the boat and the sponsons will have to be new build simply because the original parts weren’t there to recover BUT I would sooner see a complete (and hopefully running) K7 – a sight I was never fortuante enough to witness when I was younger – than the battered remains that came out of Coniston.
    The remains of NF920 do need looking after. If that means removing them from the crash site then so be it and as Richard says it is, after all, his money and he is free to spend it as he wishes.

    in reply to: BoB Hurricane – Sackcloth and ashes #1200901
    WJ244
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    Personally I don’t see anything wrong with selling items from crash sites. I do however strongly disagree with the practice of giving some items a very dubious provenance in order toincrease their value.
    I sell motorsport, motorcycle and aviation models and memorabilia although most of my items are motorsport items.
    I recently sold a rear wing endplate from a Silk Cut Jaguar Group C car. It had originally come from the estate of a well known motorpsport author who was a friend of a friend. It was damaged allegedly after the car hit its own pit board when the driver got too close to the pit wall. The incident was well known and well documented at the time but I couldn’t find any account or pictures on the web.
    I posted the item on a forum to see if I could get pictures of the car to check the damage was authentic with a view to selling it on Ebay with a picture of the damaged car as provenance. It never actually got that far as a forum member made me a good offer. He had pictures of the car and was satisfied that my claims were correct.
    Had I not sold it and not been able to obtain pictures I would have listed it on Ebay with the story of its supposed origins but made it clear I hadn’t been able to authenticate it. I think this is the only fair way to sell such an item. I fully accept that some other dealers may make mistakes when trying to identify the origin of parts but there is no excuse for deliberate lies to try to increase the value of an item.
    I think Mike is to be congratulated on being honest enough to remove his “Hurricane” parts from sale. Clearly there is some doubt over them and I hope he is able to positively identify them at some point in the future. It is a great shame not all dealers are as honest.

    in reply to: RIAT Fairford cancelled on Saturday #1201238
    WJ244
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    I do feel sorry for all those that bought Saturday tickets but having seen the pictures of the standing water I don’t think they had much option other than cancelling the show.
    I remember skating around in the mud at Biggin Hill Air Fairi and Farnborough (my first) in 1968. I got soaked through at Farnborough and although the display went ahead as far as possible it did mean that my first farnborough is memorable for all the wrong reasons.
    I remember attending Wings and Wheels at North Weald with a trade stand in the early 90’s and it rained so heavily on the Sunday that they had to get a tractor to tow out most of the vehicles. It would have been impossible to tow out everyone at a huge show like Fairford so maybe the decision is the right one.

    in reply to: Old Props Working In AK #1225205
    WJ244
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    The Fred Olsen C-46s were regukar visitors to Southend in the late 60’s along with Martinair Daks. The c-47s and c_117s were regulars overhead on their way Braintree- Southend- Dover. Great Days!

    in reply to: G-APTH Wigeon Luton? #1235448
    WJ244
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    I think there was a Dragonfly around at that time as well but from memory it was restored by Helicopter Hire at Southend for an overseas airforce museum – possibly Argentina. I suppose it is possible that Trent did some work on it or is my memory playing tricks and it was a Widgeon that Helicopter Hire resurrected.
    We had one of their Widgeons in the museum at Southend for a while but off the top of my head I can’t remember which one. I have got to scan my Southend newsletters for a forum member and should turn up more details then.

    in reply to: Cranfield College Relics(2008 thread) #1235455
    WJ244
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    When RF342 was with Napier it was allocated G-29-1 but if the Cranfield Collecge had its own class B number allocated (I believe the first number after the G- was allocated to each manufacturer/oiperator then it is possible RF342 had 2 sets of Class B marks at different times.
    I remember that the Fighter Collection had a Beaufighter nose on loan for some time to help with their Beaufighter restoration. I think it came from the RAF Museum so this could well have been ex Cranfield.

    in reply to: What Type Of Aircraft Did You First Fly In? #1238406
    WJ244
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    First flight was in Cherokee Six G-AVTK from Southend in about 1968/9. I had dragged my parents into the airport car park (one of my regular haunts) on the way back from visiting relatives. The ticket seller for the pleasure flights wanted to sell the last seat and offered it to my parents for child price. I had been an aircraft enthusiast for years but was very apprehensive about going alone but once airborne I was quite happy. I think the next two flights were a Cherokee 140 return trip to Ipswich and an aerotow from Dunstable behind a Tiger Moth in a K-13.
    My other halfs first flight was in Jackaroo G-AOIR out of Old Warden at a DH Moth Club Charity Flying Day about 1995. Wind was gusting to 40 knots and the turbulence was really bad until we got well clear of the ground. She wasn’t keen and the sight of 4 x F-18’s passing under us when we were at about 1500 ft left here even less impressed. Managed to get here onto a Dash 8 to Jersey a couple of years ago but she prefers to keep her feet well and truly on the ground.
    Last light aircraft flight was in the Shuttleworth Tiger Moth and included some formation work with the Magister. Certainly the most memorable flight I have ever had closely followed by the trip in the Air Atlantique Dak at the original launch of the Corgi Aviation Archive which was passed to me by my then boss who said he wouldn’t fly in anything which had less than 4 jets. He just doesn’t know what he is missing.

    in reply to: Granger Archaeopteryx #1174647
    WJ244
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    I remember that during a taxi run at Old Warden a few years ago the commentator said that the Granger oscillated in pitch so it must have been a bit like riding a rollercoaster. I don’t think the oscillations built up and became uncontollable it was more a case of leaving the aeroplane to get on with it and accepting a bumpy ride as any attempt at correcting matters tended to make the oscillations worse and could lead to problems. This would probably tie in with the short moment of the stubby fuselage.
    I have never seen it fly so I would love to see it in the air again even if it is only for short hops down the runway at Old Warden.
    I saw the attempts to fly the Dagling at the first show this year. I had heard they flew like a brick and but didn’t realise quite how accurate a description that was of their flying characteristics. It still appeared that there was more than one person who was happy to jump in and have a go though.
    One of the great things about Old Warden is that they do try to get everything off the ground even if it is only for a brief flight. The sight of the Edwardians, the Hummingbird and the Wren in the air give me more pleasure than a thousand flypasts by a modern jet.

    in reply to: USAAF WWII Memorial Flight Plaque #1181803
    WJ244
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    Thanks T21. I had a few minutes to spare and the scanner was working (for a change) so I thought I would give it a try on here first.
    Must admit I was a bit surprised that I didn’t get more response but looks like the operator of Sally B is the next stop.

    in reply to: Any News on the Humbrol Hunter? (merged thread) #1187721
    WJ244
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    14ml in the tinlets. 50ml in the larger tin. Two decent brush strokes. Can’t do the maths though!!!

    Shouldn’t be any need for the maths. I know that the Heinkel (and possibly the Mitchell) at Southend were painted with Humbrol. One of my jobs was regular trips onto the top of the Heinkel to wire brush the loose paint and daub over it. The paint came in 1 gallon tins which had exactly the same style labelling as the modelling tinlets. Haven’t got a clue how many gallons it took to spray a Heinkel ( I worked as the sprayers mate during one of my school holidays but didn’t get to paint the Heinkel) but I do know that it didn’t stay on too well with the aircraft parked outside all the time.
    Much of the underside of Sea Fury WJ288 was my handiwork. The sprayer reckoned I was younger than him so it was only fair that I crawled about underneath with the spray gun. I also hand painted all the crowns on the roundels of the Saab J29. I masked off the original roundels and we hand painted over them!

    in reply to: Jeff Hawke #1188613
    WJ244
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    I saw Geoff fly many impressive displays but there was always something that made me have doubts about the state of his aeroplanes and a little part of me was always concerned that it just might end in tears although thankfully it never did. He was certainly a character but I don’t know how he would have fitted into the regulation of modern airshows.

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