I thought this would be about waking up and finding your flag looking like this:

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Before or after she died…?

I would have thought the now was explicit enough. :stupid:

As for English Mp’s voting for English matters only, define English matters, any one matter voted through on an English parliament will have a cost involved and that will effect the whole of the Countrie(s) not just one.

Simply put, an English matter would be one that Scotland already has devolved powers over; health and social issues, agriculture, environment. A Scottish MP, in Westminster, could vociferously vote for a rise in English prescription fees knowing full well that he wouldn’t have to pay them back home.

Anyhoo – in general I think its a pity – I now expect the political classes to relax back into their opulent ways and treat the majority of the populace like sh_t. They could have done with the kick up the backside (well, to be honest, they are long past the kick up the backside stage, probably needing a good dig on the jaw at this stage).

Were they ever too worried? The tinfoil hatters are already suggesting R. Murdoch got that YouGov poll into the papers to make them scrabble a bit. Other than that I can’t see it. Ed Miliband came to one of the nastiest shopping centres in Edinburgh (wrecking ball to move in in the next few years apparently) and had some nasty stuff shouted at him. Cameron did his shirtsleeves act and mentioned ‘effing Tories’. It would appear it all settled down again after that.

Oil revenue is all good and well, but I was wondering how an Indy Scotland was going to defend that corner of the realm. Also, it sat rather unpleasantly with the greener Scotland we were being promised. Banking on a dwindling dirty fuel source, when Scotland repeatedly trips up over renewables (the £17 million research wind turbine on Orkney that lead to naught, the mothballing of the turbine factory on the Mull of Kintyre and the demise of the Proven brand of farm-scale wind turbines springs to mind) made me somewhat nervous.

One has only got to look at the world in general to note that at the cause of most conflicts (if it isn’t religion) are Nationalism, territorial disputes and tribalism and at the heart of these are often egotistical individuals with narrow horizons.

Nationalism, territorial disputes and tribalism are at the heart of the vintage warbird movement. :highly_amused:

At least the SNP is sticking with fish to lead them!;)

Help us all.

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For the record I don’t think there is a god. Quite why this means I have to belong to a group of individuals beats me. The way I see it, I am better at some things than others. I am quite a good musician, whereas I know people who are tone deaf. I know people who are deeply spiritual, but I myself find I struggle to even imagine what that must feel like. I don’t think I need to ever congregate with other spiritually-lacking individuals expressly to bitch about those that find solace in organised religion, but perhaps that is just me.

I think that politics will change over time, and that atheist leaders will be accepted in the fairly near future. I’m more surprised that people value Blair’s supposed faith, though he did tone (geddit?) it down a bit whilst in power.