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  • in reply to: That Hudson which was a 'Spitfire' #805992
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    I’ve been messing around editing my photos from the last couple of weekends today, so I had a quick bash at the photo in the opening post:

    http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o720/Alanko/HudsonEngine_zpsa47fozjw.jpg

    in reply to: VTTS Hard Facts Finally Coming Home To Roost? #806967
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    On the daily mail site and interesting reading

    That post was almost certainly made by somebody from the UKAR forum. It does make for interesting reading though, and that sort of methodical snooping wouldn’t look out of place in the back pages of Private Eye… if it is true.

    On a separate note, I thought the long-term involvement and stipulations of the HLF was daft. People citing the HLF’s rules as a reason for 558 never being scrapped. Everybody currently involved with the Vulcan will be dead in 79 (?) years time, so you are putting a lot of faith in future generations!

    in reply to: VTTS Hard Facts Finally Coming Home To Roost? #807947
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    From memory you cannot stand under the bomb door on XL318, simply skirt around the perimeter.

    in reply to: Lancaster wheel in derelict museum? #808231
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    Fort Perch Rock might be a better shout? They appear to have a number of aircraft wheels in their collection, if Google Images is to be trusted.

    in reply to: VTTS Hard Facts Finally Coming Home To Roost? #808237
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    Its not destruction.

    I was under the impression that things had to be cut on XL318, rather than simply unbolted. I could be wrong! VTTS seem to be claiming that 558 cannot be shipped out by road, which I read as meaning that some irreversible steps have to be taken to get a Vulcan into that many pieces.

    As you suggest, now that 558 is simply a ground runner (on paper) it is no longer that special, which raises the ‘so what?’ question. For example, I do wonder how many people go to taxying events at Bruntingthorpe who did not see these aircraft fly the first time. At the moment you are lucky that there are a lot of blokes who saw a Lightning take off vertically at ‘Waddo’ in the ’70s and ’80s, and who have a soft spot (sometimes bordering on the rabid) for Lightnings. In a couple of decades that number will diminish, and yet there will apparently be a steady demand for 558 taxying runs by that point?

    I’m ambivalent. I’m not going to travel any great distance to see 558 taxi. I saw her twice; both times at the Ayr/Prestwick show. On the second occasion I did the underwing tour, paid for some merchandise and all of that. I chatted to the VTTS crew about the problems with the undercarriage, and although they seemed pretty cagey at times they seemed professional enough. Later in the day I felt and saw 558 come howling up the runway and take off. She then came back, gave us a little wing waggle and then disappeared over the horizon. Apparently this was the last time she ever took off from a runway other than the one at Doncaster I’m quite happy to live with that as my lasting memory of 558. Two good displays on two good days, with a whole slew of elements that cannot ever be replicated with a taxi run.

    in reply to: VTTS Hard Facts Finally Coming Home To Roost? #808526
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    Very interesting photos. To my untrained eye they don’t give away much of the scale of controlled destruction required to get a Vulcan down to component parts like that. One of the comments at the bottom of the page is quite poignant:

    “I wonder if the buyer of the Blackpool Vulcan has realised quite how much it is going to cost to move it too his pub, assumming (sic) it can be taken apart!”

    XL391 limped on until 2006, but was scrapped onsite. It never made it to the pub. Nice idea though!

    in reply to: Lancaster wheel in derelict museum? #808803
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    Many thanks Bill T and Atcham Tower for putting me on the right track! I’m glad to hear that the wheel still lives. According to Mr. Google G-AIHU crashed in 1947, which is a little after ‘hostilities had ceased’. Oddly enough my Grandmother once claimed that a relative died in a crash the day after VE Day, 1945. I will have to ask her about this next time I see her.

    in reply to: What's not in the museums? #809574
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    There is a section of a Sea Hornet at the de Havilland museum, but that is it! No remaining Vulcan B1s beyond a couple of cockpits, and an ambiguous third (according to Thunder and Lightnings), and no remaining Shackleton MR1s. The last was broken up on site at Strathallan in the 1980s, though the nose survives.

    in reply to: Lancaster wheel in derelict museum? #809578
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    I’ve been reading a bit more since I started this thread, and I saw mention of vehicles rotting away while there. As you say, stashing vehicles in a damp cave system doesn’t seem to have been the smartest choice. It seems like they had quite a collection of vehicles, so the wheel could have come from any one of them. If they did have a Lancaster wheel, where is it now and are they considered a rare or interesting object in their own right?

    in reply to: VTTS Hard Facts Finally Coming Home To Roost? #810633
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    I wasn’t there, from what remember the video was discredited as a bunch of stills stitched together but I could be wrong.

    That always annoyed me slightly. People thought that because the video is simply stitched together photographs it is therefore fake. I don’t think it was ever presented as anything other than a series of photographs in sequence, and nothing about that automatically makes it fake. I saw too many Twitter posts at the time from people reporting that 558 rolled. People might misinterpret a wing-over, but hopefully not the aviation enthusiasts who saw it roll. It was a maneuver performed at altitude away from any spectators and not as part of any sort of display, but after Shoreham it was a slightly distasteful thing to do over a built up area, and could be interpreted as a slightly self-indulgent and irreverent. After all VTTS didn’t have to worry about 558 being grounded as that was imminent anyway, but had more concern had been raised then it would be other historic aircraft operators facing the fallout.

    in reply to: Elgin scrapyard revisited #812551
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    Some of that stuff must have a collectors’ value?

    in reply to: Shoreham Aerojumble – Sat 6 April 2013 #815236
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    …increased rent (150% kike)…

    Oy vey!

    in reply to: Was an Aussie Spitfire scrapped in QLD recently? #816174
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    What does ‘potentially scrapped’ mean?

    It is the Schrödinger’s cat of Spitfires.

    in reply to: VTTS Hard Facts Finally Coming Home To Roost? #817832
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    Beyond the emotive?

    Is there anything other than the emotive when preserving old aeroplanes?

    Educational purposes, allegories for 20th Century conflict, testaments to man’s ingenuity, all that sort of cobblers… :very_drunk:

    in reply to: VTTS Hard Facts Finally Coming Home To Roost? #818479
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    Put it out of it’s misery – lets not see the slow decline – break it up now & save all this speculation, wishes & hot air.

    This was a suggestion I made in another thread, half jokingly. The strongest argument I’ve seen against the scrapping route, beyond the emotive, is that the Heritage Lottery Funding requires the aircraft to remain in one piece. However I’m not sure exactly what would happen if VTTS, strapped for cash, decided to part 558 out to raise funds. My thoughts, as per elsewhere, is that VTTS can prove their usefulness post-flying-era by helping to keep other ground-running and static Vulcans in good nick. They apparently helped out with the white Vulcan at Woodford, so the precedent is there. Presumably they have quite an impressive cache of parts, tools and knowledge, so why squander it all away on one example of a ground-runner that his largely hidden from the public gaze? My other suggestion was to quickly but carefully dismantle 558. Firstly this saves on space, keeping overheads down. Secondly it gives you even more parts and materials to assist the other remaining Vulcans with. Everything else can be flogged to Vulcan obsessives (the type that stalk ex-Vulcan pilots at the VTTS stand at air displays to get all their signatures in wee books). Would they pay £200 for a presentation-mounted compressor blade from an Olympus? There must be any number of small, dispensable parts in XH558 that could be tarted up and sold off as decorative merchandise.

    Naturally I’ve copped a lot of flack for these opinions, but surely it isn’t that much dafter than taking on a Canberra project and then quickly giving up on the whole charade.

    This page in particular smacks of desperation: http://www.vulcantothesky.org/how-to-help.html Recycle your old mobile phones and printer cartridges to keep a Vulcan languishing away in a shed in Doncaster? Sign me up!

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