As I said before, I find it hard to believe that sports and music events on a similar scale to Throckmorton (etc) are organised so unprofessionally by people with such limited business and communication skills. No sympathy here.
Air displays seem to have been going on in various forms for a hundred years plus -which part is the general public disliking?
You would have to consult all those that didn’t bother purchasing tickets for Throckmorton this time round.
As for organisation – unfortunately organised sporting events have had tragedies in the U.K – I cannot really see what the air display industry has been doing dramatically wrong.
Cancelling an airshow a couple of days before it is meant to go ahead, fobbing the blame off on the CAA in a series of publically shared ‘woe is us’ posts and then wading into social media to attack critics is the definition of doing it dramatically wrong. Besides, I wasn’t talking strictly about accident or tragedy ‘management’. I think that is a shaky line of reasoning to go down. If I go to the TT Races or go see a Rally there is an inherent risk that I might be struck by a vehicle. I should not really have to consider a similar level of risk just because I happen to be driving past an airshow, as in the case of Shoreham.
Besides, I keep reading about how much better the displays were in the ’70s and ’80s. I don’t need to say anything to quantify the decline in airshows, because many enthusiasts are already doing exactly that. Shoreham and the actions of the CAA might simply be speeding up the inevitable.
Or maybe just put the same effort into putting him straight and explaining where he’d gone wrong?
Now where is the fun in that? Physical assault all the way.
You can turn those emails, and all notification emails, off. Getting annoyed at email frequency must be the pinnacle of first world problems. :applause:
You should be so lucky that you have lots of people wanting to be your friend on there. :apologetic:
The good people of the purple place have vitriol down to a fine art.
I saw it mentioned that Throckmorton was impressive last year because it was organised by two people around a kitchen table. This got me thinking. Are airshows somewhat unique, in that events of their size are organised in such a grassroots manner? Sporting and musical events of similar size are almost certainly not organised around a kitchen table by a couple of volunteers. For all the bellyaching, and perhaps a rare flash of optimism on my part, though smaller events are going to suffer this year perhaps new legislation will legitimise airshows and perhaps make them more acceptable to the general public? Throckmorton’s ticket sales were down this year, after all, and some reports of smaller shows make them sound almost like village steam rallies, just with aircraft instead. Throckmorton’s sales might be down due to a mix of post-Shoreham fallout and many remembering the issues with congestion last year (or some other factor)? Perhaps if airshows were as slick as similar-scale music events then more people would buy tickets ahead of the day?
Just a thought.
The largest cemetery in the world,,,,, say it all
Are you sure you aren’t talking about this forum?
You can have a Facebook account and actually have a modicum of self control when it comes to sharing information. I’ve never seen a cogent argument against FB on here. You all sound a lot like my Gran (who, at 90, is on Facebook oddly enough).
Couldn’t you just register with Facebook? Use Ten Minute Mail to use a bogus email address not linked to your actual identity, use a John Smith user name, profile picture of a cat, that sort of thing?
Sounds like last year was a bit of a disorganised mess, with a serious snafu around ticketless attendees turning up on the day and slowing access to the site for those with pre-arranged tickets. Looks like they had a fairly desultory display line-up this year anyway, and the organisation in general appears to be fairly ramshackle and amateurish. Of course it is way easier, and currently way trendier, to blame all of this on the CAA rather than ****-poor planning, and ultimately it is the charities that would have benefitted from this show that are getting hurt (a fact overlooked in the sea of whining spotters on UKAR and the like).
You could spin this around and ask me what experience I have of organising big events. I don’t, and therefore I don’t try to. Perhaps Throckmorton should apply the same logic. Their decision to wade into social media discussion yesterday with the ferocity of sparring teenage bloggers doesn’t help matters.
The CAA turned me into a newt! I got better…
I saw City of Adelaide in Irvine when I was a kid. From memory very little was said about it back then, even at the museum there. It was little more than a mystery hulk. Glad to see it has been saved.
Had a look on Flickr and it looks like XM603 is under a temporary poly-tunnel arrangement. Is it getting a repaint or a clean-up? Will it be moved indoors as part of the heritage centre plans? I wish there were more white Vulcans, but clearly it isn’t a good finish for those kept outdoors.
Years later when I got a paper round I used to get the coach down to London as often as possible…
Out of sheer curiosity, what kept you going back? For me, museums are about discovery. Hendon doesn’t seem so big that you cannot visit it all in one day. Did you simply enjoy seeing the same aircraft in the flesh?
I have been of the web for a couple of months,what has happened to the St Mawgan shack?
Being restored! You can follow progress on Facebook on their page ‘Rosalie, The Shackleton’. They found some heavy corrosion early on, but they are ploughing on.
Just to be pedantic on that point, it was more like twelve minutes last time I timed it – so 15 minutes for a lot of people.
It hasn’t always been obvious what route to take from the tube station.
I am just trying to understand the parameters relating to access to the museum.
I did it in about twelve minutes, from memory, from Colindale. This station is right on the edge of zone three, whereas Hendon Central is in zone two. My Oyster pass was only set up for the first two zones. :stupid:
I did the route beforehand using Google street view, to get a feel for the buildings. Without that I would have been following the banners on the lampposts.