It looks increasingly likely that a bomb brought down the Russian aircraft in Egypt, though I do find Cameron’s proclamations a little premature. I’m conflicted here, to be honest. As long as there is any doubt around the bomb theory the BBC et al are basically serving as the PR wing of ISIS, in a perverted sense. ISIS are likely to claim any good in that part of the world as the work of their cunning and conniving schemes, but it doesn’t make it true! Remember all the ragtag groups that claimed 911 as their handiwork. I optimistically (in the loosest sense) hope that the aircraft crashed as a result of those repairs carried out after a tail strike, though that was back in 2001 apparently. It wouldn’t be the first time that botched repairs caused a bulkhead to blow out at altitude, and I imagine an explosive decompression and a bomb sound fairly similar over a cockpit voice recorder. From that sort of thing knuckles can be rapped, lessons can be learned, procedures can be introduced or revised. The alternative is the white-hot lunacy of ISIS, and I hate to think that they are getting credit where it certainly isn’t due. If nothing else I think the way ISIS is commonly reported is perhaps a little simplistic. Yes they are barbaric religious extremists, but they have too many resources, seem to act in too calculated a matter and just seem to be too widely spread for there not to be some sort of overarching power structure that we aren’t totally tapping in to. I’ve seen the Saudi royal family implicated, but you quickly end up in David Icke territory that way. Is it fair to say ISIS is misrepresented in the West to aid political agendas here? Who can say, but history could potentially suggest so.

All of this is small beer, apparently, anyway. If you watch the news you would think that the real story wasn’t so much dead Russians as inconvenienced sunburnt Brits. I think holidaying in ‘Sharm’ comes with its inherent risks, personally, and that anybody staying there shouldn’t discount them. You are paying Benidorm prices to holiday in Egypt, not that you apparently notice any difference in your gated esort, and in doing so you are spending time in a country that recently had a military coup that saw the president thrown in gaol. You are saving money by holidaying in a risky part of the world, so occasionally the **** will hit the fan; yet I’m supposed to feel sympathy for a pack of chavs stuck in an airport, because they keep sobbing that nobody knows what is going on. In that aspect I suppose they are quite correct, but whilst this uncertainty remains it is probably best that you don’t get on an aeroplane in an airport where it appears that you can bribe the security team and have anything placed in the hold. All of this overlooks the plight all those Russian families with dead relatives strewn around the Sinai desert, purely because our Kimberley has to spend a few more nights in a plush hotel. This whiny, lazy and complacent attitude will be the downfall of this country, I tell ye.

I plan to go to Hendon in a few weeks, so I will be able to comment then. On spec it looks like an impressive collection if difficult to photograph. As for paying £3 for a free museum, perhaps the phrase sometimes used in conjunction with open-source software should be used here.

You get what you pay for.
You get what everybody pays for.
Everybody gets what you pay for.
Everybody gets what everybody pays for.

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Has anyone else noticed a rash of hairdressers breaking out on their high street ?

Better than a rash of bookies, McDonalds or pawnbrokers I suppose. :highly_amused:

Turkish barbers will offer to sort out your eyebrows or shave the fine hairs off your ears. They will also give you a shave, though apparently you need to find a really good one if you want to go through with that sort of thing.

There used to be regular Concorde booms in Cornwall.

I’ve seen it suggested that the Typhoon went boom at the start of its display at Prestwick this year.

I’ve started following the page and, generally, I support any project that understands and makes judicious use of social media. I’m surprised at the hostility towards Facebook on here, but then again the worst behaviour I’ve seen on social media tends to come from older individuals, who seem to take an all-or-nothing approach to social media. Most of my older relatives tend to avoid it, using tenuous pseudo-reasoning to cover their fairly luddite attitudes towards technology. Those that are on social media are always on social media. Most arguments and fights I’ve seen on news pages on Facebook tend to be amongst older posters! I follow a TSR-2 page on there that has already had a couple of members leave, huffily, because of how it is moderated. A niche discussion page dedicated to a niche aircraft, and you lot still cannot keep it civil.

Anyway, this thread sounds a lot like this:

I did the unthinkable, and went onto the David Icke forum to see what the green inkers might have to say on the matter.

In short, this aircraft didn’t crash, because it didn’t exist in the first place. The whole thing is a false flag operation, with random artefacts planted in the desert. That is unless the IDF did it, because then it is clearly the work of Zionists….

The main problem I encounter,is the need to be very specific in the question you ask. Otherwise the answers can be very ambiguous.

Google seems to be the search engine that has the most intelligence built in, but it does mean that the results can be a bit weird. For example I’ve noticed that it will flag up words in results that are similar to words you searched for, even if the words are completely out of context.

Bing is a bit more old fashioned, in terms of the types of results you get. It may respond better to boolean commands as well.

I’m not sure how you can be so emphatically sure that it is faked. I’m not convinced, swayed, or otherwise have any horse in this race either way. If the Vulcan was indeed rolled then it suggests a slightly worrisome gung ho attitude on the part of the crew. It also suggests selfishness on their part, as the roll was clearly not for the benefit of spectators on the ground, or us armchair enthusiasts on the Internet. Doing your Roly Falk bit, just to get a childhood fantasy out of your system, seems a bit petty. As an aside, if they did perform the roll then I wish I had been there to see it, but that is about it.

That video on Youtube is impossible to discover, thanks to the way the author has configured it. You have to either go through a post on here or via the Grantham newspaper web page, which is hardly going to get the traffic of the Daily Mail or similar. If the video creator was wishing to deceive with a bogus video then they could have publicised their video a bit better, and hawked it around the gutter press. A well chosen hashtag would have had this video seen by millions. At the moment it has 5,753 views. Given that the video is hosted on a news page and linked to from at least two Internet forums it seems like a low view count. Likewise there were too many reports from Twitter on the day, and reports on here and UKAR, that all suggest a couple of rolls were performed. I know this forum gets a perverse enjoyment out of pointing out how little the public know about aviation, but a roll is surely hard to miss or mistake another maneuver for?

If they didn’t roll the Vulcan then it doesn’t matter, but there are still those that suggest that they should have done it, at RIAT, out over the sea or wherever. My only concern is that if the Vulcan was indeed rolled, then it was a sneaky endeavor, and any draconian rules that the CAA puts in place concerning the displaying of historic aircraft will have no bearing on VTTS anyway. A slightly ‘I got mine’ attitude, and ****** anybody else with an interesting aircraft to display in the future. Post Shoreham it seems a tad insensitive if nothing else. Yes,we know they wouldn’t have crashed the Vulcan, and there was no risk to the people on the ground, but when you have one of the noisiest, largest aircraft on the UK airshow circuit you have to perhaps shoulder a little bit more responsibility than may have been demonstrated here. The silica ingestion debacle suggests, to me, that at least in the past VTTS weren’t quite as slick and accountable as perhaps they make out with their, admittedly impressive, website and social media presence. If the pilots on the day decided to roll the aircraft then it suggests a slight breakdown in command, or at least an element of the presiding work ethos within VTTS; sort of like taking a leisurely lunch because the boss is out of the office.

Hey, maybe it never happened.