Anybody that threatens to split up the current Labour party and is criticised by both Diane Abbott and Alastair Campbell must be a good thing. :eagerness:

Perhaps this is all a bit of a moot point, as there seems to have been a slow shift to the right across much of Europe in the last decade or so. Perhaps some of the central ideas behind left-wing politics, such as Marxism, are looking more than a little long in the tooth in this day and age. Too academic and idealistic to be of any real use. Having said that, Corbyn seems like a throwback to the ’70s or ’80s, so he could drag Labour back to more traditional values and away from their current entrenchment in amorphous centre-right values that give them no standout features or policies.

I’m not sure where Corbyn fits in, but when he tries to appeal to certain areas on the left (such as his weird notion of readily indefinable woman-only railway carriages) he bungles it completely. I don’t think any feminists would favour a Sharia-lite policy such as that. If he gets rid of Nuclear defence and pulls us out of Nato then we can expect to see more Bears in our skies!

I try to be open minded too on several subjects, like UFOs for instance. All too often people mistake having ‘a healthy dose of skepticism’ with being stubborn and close minded.

Likewise, I find that all too often people mistake ‘being open minded’ with having no logic or reasoning skills, bare-faced gullability and a penchant for a good yarn.

As morbid as it sounds, the Gnat crash wasn’t filmed from multiple angles at close proximity and the only death was that of the pilot. Very unfortunately, the Shoreham crash has been a gift for the media as it has been so widely photographed and filmed, from the pre-display take off to the mobile footage of the immediate post-crash carnage.

My thoughts exactly. Would even suggest butterfly. Doesn’t look the write colour, shape or angle from the rear of the aircraft to be a flame out.

All just my opinion of course.

Journalists shot dead live on air in Virginia

Just another day in the land of the free. :eagerness:

Funny looking jet engine in the foreground of that first shot. :highly_amused:

The Daily Fail keeps digging:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3211269/Just-yards-Shoreham-air-disaster-fireball-planespotter-came-closest-death-survived.html

Those baseless rumours in full:

ENGINE FLAME-OUT

The plane’s combustion engine may have gone out, causing the aircraft to fly out of control and plummet to the ground. Mr Hill could have been trying to restart the engine while doing the loop. Expert Julian Bray said: ‘It might have flamed out – in other words, the fire went out in the jet itself.’

G-FORCE BLACKOUT

Mr Hill may have stayed conscious but temporarily lost his vision during the loop-the-loop because of G-force effects that moves blood away from the head. It appears that the aircraft is pulling up before the crash. He could have blacked out briefly during the manoeuvre and ran out of time to correct his flight path.

FALSE HORIZON

A visual phenomenon known as a ‘false horizon’ could have affected Mr Hill. When performing close to the sea on a bright day, pilots can confuse the sea and the sky and misjudge the horizon.

PILOT ERROR

It is possible Mr Hill made an error. Footage shows the jet, travelling at almost 400mph, pulling out of the loop too late. Mr Hill has more than 12,000 hours of flying experience and is highly skilled.

Pilot Neil McCarthy told Sky News: ‘He’s a very, very accomplished pilot… and a very, very safe pilot. The majority of airshow accidents do come down to pilot error but in this case only Andy knows what went on in the cockpit.’

INSTRUMENT FAILURE

The 1955 Hawker Hunter was rebuilt in 1959 but experts say age is unlikely to have led to the crash. However, there could have been an instrument error or internal fault that led to the crash.

Martin
Perhaps that is a painting of an event? In Finow (NorthEast Berlin) they have a possible later development in an ex-Soviet hangar
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Nigel

Wird es im Legends sein?