An attack Concordski. :eagerness:

Lacks a certain elegance compared to the TSR2.

As an expatriate scouser…

Does that make you a Professional Scouser, ala Tarbuck, or a Wool? 😀

I remember a very similar thread we had in July 2011 after Amy Winehouse had died. She too received her share of “No great loss!”; “Couldn’t stand her!”; “No Talent at all!” etc, etc. Comments like these give us a clear picture of who we are dealing with here!

Peter

I would find it a little unfair to make such comments about Amy Winehouse. Regardless of if you like her music or not, it is hard to deny that she had talent as a singer. She seems inherently a tragic figure, stuck on a downward path of self destruction in a bid to keep her music valid and meaningful. She died far too young, but it seemed inevitable.

This thread notified us that Cilla had passed. I see any comment as fair game. There is sufficient testimony from many different sources, all suggesting that in person she was an unpleasant character. If you don’t wish to hear this, there has been endless eulogies from luvvies and old-media types. The needlessly maudlin and attention seeking faux grief from the general public, a trend which I dare say started with Princess ‘our’ Diana, seems as vacuous as ever. If they are asked for their opinion then surely I am being asked for mine as well and given that we are discussing a nouveau riche TV presenter, who sung a handful of somebody else’s songs a half century ago, and who apparently had minimal consideration for anybody she believed beneath her whilst peddling the Professional Scouser routine (ala Jimmy Tarbuck), I have no reason to either pretend that Cilla meant a lot to me or that I am going to pretend that she was a great person.

Sorry and all.

If she backed the best Prime minister we’ve ever had; Lady T, she’ll do for me.

Cilla supposedly stated that Thatcher put the ‘Great back into Britain’. I have absolutely no qualms with her backing any political party. However, you cannot maintain much credibility if you decide to back a political party one minute then claim to belong to a corner of society that vehemently opposes that same political party the next. It would be akin to her coming out in support of the Hillsborough families whilst penning a weekly column in the Sun. A tad clueless and insensitive.

I think both Cilla and Margaret Thatcher lacked a certain degree of self awareness. In the case of the latter it made for a divisive leader with a very clear, unwavering political vision. In he case of the former it made for an unpleasant TV entertainer whose offstage personality lacked either the humour or the warmth that one would expect from such a character. Cilla clearly didn’t see anything inherently hypocritical in her words and deeds. Is that a fair observation?

It’s a fairly safe bet none of you live in Buckinghamshire; in the years Cilla Black lived not far from this town, she worked tirelessly with local charities, raising money to buy scanners for the local hospitals.
Anyway, normal service can now be resumed, and you small-minded people can continue with your destruction of yet another person’s reputation; she was, after all, a “celebrity,” and that makes her fair game for the great, jealous, British public.

A personal friend? A few good deeds does not a good person make. Are you going to argue that Jimmy Savile was a tireless philanthropist whilst we are at it? Technically it is true, but you have to make one or two omissions! I trust she raised money for hospital equipment in Merseyside as well, right?

Cilla Black was a monied chav before it was popular. Spoke like one of Mersey’s finest but didn’t live there for over forty years. Backed Thatcher and the Conservatives but claimed to still be Northern working class when it suited her. Treated anybody she believed to be beneath her as serfs, drowned herself in champagne and spent most of the year abroad. Rose up out of that sleazy music hall/impresario culture that also gave us most of the Yewtree hit list. Couldn’t sing to any great degree, and even gave that up, instead making her millions from inane panel shows and Blind Date. Overpaid, over privileged, under talented and ungrateful.

RIP. I wonder if Bruce Forsyth is next?

I’m with them.

Tony Martin, is that you?

“They were amazed that I didn’t think it necessary to carry a gun”

You live where? In Scotland ?

Very perceptive of you. Said commentators were readily aware that I lived in Scotland, so I imagine that they thought that the keys + wallet + gun routine was universal for any person popping out for milk.

The father has very feminine eyes. He’s been living a lie for all these years, and watched most of his paycheck get funnelled into that wee kid down the front that clearly isn’t his (hers?). An emotionally unstable individual like that should be nowhere near a gun.

I jest, but there is a palpable homoeroticism about the tougher gun nut crowd. All that camo and tucked-in poloshirts I guess. Pretending you are military grade when you are 60% body fat and generally getting in the way physically, politically and emotionally. I’m always amazed that such hardliner survivalist gun-nut instincts preclude any form of physical exercise. “I don’t need to be fit, I’ve got my gun”, being the order of the day.

I guess nobody has the heart to tell him that insulin pumps will probably not exist in a post-apocalyptic society and that his daughter will have to bandage his gangrenous stumps once his feet fall off. Still, she has a rifle to play with!

I’ve butted heads with US folks on other forums. They were amazed that I didn’t think it necessary to carry a gun every time I leave my home to go buy milk from the corner shop.