I knew Ken, also his late brother and mother for many years, It was in his character not to suffer fools gladly…
Where does walking around, dick in hand, come in to all of this?
I was going to suggest dummy bomb. In fact, I just did! :eagerness:
Nice…
Lighten up, we are discussing the comments section of the Daily Mail website here. Those posters are all vying for some anonymous green thumbs, and are therefore trying to harvest peer approval, rather than to incite stirring debate.
I can be patient with anybody that isn’t up to speed on something. For one thing, it is helpful if you are unsure of things yourself. For example, I had forgotten some of the details of the Blenheim that crashed onto the golf course. But, if I can find out this information then anybody can. I refuse to tolerate people that could have become more knowledgeable but didn’t bother and have some form of pride in the fact. You are lucky if you have never been told to ‘wake up’ by some individual on the internet who hides their anti-intellectual stance behind snide cynicism.
What would you do with them meddle? All these ‘stupid’ people I mean. It’s all context isn’t it. Do you think others haven’t overheard a conversation you’ve had and thought ‘what an idiot!’. Of course. We are all stupid in our own little ways. Maybe a bit more tolerance would go a long way.
I’m not suggesting we do anything, they deserve a voice (etc etc…). However, I prefer not to be reminded of their existence!
But obviously, we are straying a long way from Historic Aviation now, aren’t we?
Moggy
Careful now!
Probably thinking of the Biggin Hill Invader crash, about 30 years ago. Not a loop, but a barrel roll, but they are both pitching figures, so maybe not totally off the mark.
They were all killed.
Conflated with the crash of G-MKIV, in which no lives were lost. I don’t think the Invader was newly restored when it crashed in 1980.
But my point is, commentator A makes a fairly vague, and difficult to quantify, statement. “Damned few of them left”. Spitfires? Historic aircraft? Perhaps he is upset at the loss of historic aircraft and is blaming it on pilots ‘bending’ them? Who knows.
Commentator B uses this as an opportunity to demonstrate a tangentially relevant “fact” that he has stored away for such occasions. He combines the loss of Bolingbroke G-MKIV with the loss of the A-26 at Biggin. At some point this becomes a “newly restored bomber” that was apparently a “unique Blenheim”. All killed.
Commentator C comes across as more authoritative, but doesn’t realise commentator B is mixing up air accidents. He also suggests that the Blenheim was ‘built’ by Robs Lamplough, and then asserts that he thinks it might be flying again. The mention of Mr. Lamplough gives his post an air of credibility but is still contains a couple of errors (can you argue that a Bolingbroke isn’t a Blenheim?), and I think Mr. Lamplough is being given a lot of credit for the work of the Air Restoration Company. He also doesn’t put right the post made by Commentator B, so at least some of the content (loss of life for all on board) isn’t really corrected.
This way madness lies.
I know I am a glutton for punishment but I have just been checking out some of the comments on the DM website .
It truly worries me that I share the same planet with those morons.
Stupid people have always existed. It is unfortunate that the Internet now makes it apparent that you and I share oxygen with them.
The worst dialog I saw wasn’t the stupidest by quite a margin…
Comment 1: I wish they would quit bending these old aircraft. There are damned few of them left.
Comment 2: Agreed. Worsed case was 30+ years ago they planted a newly restored bomber into the ground at BH trying to a loop. A unique Blenheim, I think…tragic, all killed! :apologetic:
Comment 3: the Blenheim that went into the golf course was built by Robs Lamplough. Not sure if any fatalities, but as far as I know it’s now flying again.
Where to start…
It wasn’t a documentary on his life anyway, it was a documentary on his and his brother’s reaction to having their only access to the outside world blocked.
So they’re the real victims here, right? :sleeping:
It wasn’t a documentary on his life anyway, it was a documentary on his and his brother’s reaction to having their only access to the outside world blocked.
So they’re the real victims here, right? :sleeping:
Thanks for that breakdown, Ross. Your comment prompted me to dig up the software I used; Erdas Imagine.
We know that the lake in Peenemunde is filled with silt from the adjacent power station, as the divers stir it up in the videos from the site. If Merlin engines can become buried in the silt then this calls into question Merlindown’s grander claims?
The wording of the original article is a little suspect;
“Note its shape (the straight white band on the back is where the doors are situated to provide access to the inside of the bomber). At the opposite side of the cupola (bottom of cupola image as seen here) is where the guns were mounted. The guns are still in situ, and are more in evidence on other images (not reproduced here).”
I think that this section is worded as an appeal to the reader’s wish to not appear ignorant. To be honest the visuals from his surveying work look a lot like ’80s arcade games, and nothing in any of them say Lancaster to me.
Having said all that, I’ve studied remote sensing before today. I used software to analyse various bands within a hyper spectral image, which revealed different mineral deposits on an otherwise barren desert floor. It is entirely possible to penetrate vegetation and soil, but I’m not sure you can conclusively identify Lancaster components as a result. “More in evidence on other images (not reproduced here)” seems like a total cop-out.
Perhaps a good tidy up of the Peenemunde site is in order. It seems odd that DV202 still languishes in a heavily polluted lake.
Well that is one way of missing the point…
Well that is one way of missing the point…
What is the problem?? Originally I posted this in historic – post No. 13 explains very well the aviation interest behind the story.
He scraped together a few cockpits and other assorted aviation ephemera? Seems like a small corner of the whole picture, as far as Mr. Ward is involved. I also doubt Channel 5 will report on the case remarkably well (the show is called Nightmare Neighbours) and I doubt it will spend much time covering his aviation collection either.
What is the problem?? Originally I posted this in historic – post No. 13 explains very well the aviation interest behind the story.
He scraped together a few cockpits and other assorted aviation ephemera? Seems like a small corner of the whole picture, as far as Mr. Ward is involved. I also doubt Channel 5 will report on the case remarkably well (the show is called Nightmare Neighbours) and I doubt it will spend much time covering his aviation collection either.