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Keith Gaff

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  • in reply to: For Wirraway and Boomerang fans #1090380
    Keith Gaff
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    Wirraway

    The picture below may be of interest to you Wirraway fans. It depicts Wirraway A20-10, the eighth production and oldest surviving Wirraway. The photo was taken by mr. Terry Ellis of the Moorabbin Air Museum in April 1971 just prior to the Royal Australian Air Force’s Golden Jubilee airshow at RAAF Base Laverton. A20-10 belonged to the Moorabbin Air Museum and still does. It can be seen on display at Moorabbin to this day.

    http://s193.photobucket.com/albums/z208/kgaff_2007/?action=view&current=RAAFLavertonVICApl71.jpg

    in reply to: LF: Macchi 205v in RAF/RAAF markings #1123514
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    Macchi CV-V

    The Macchi you are looking at was captured by No.3 Squadron RAAF. All the captured aircraft they acquired carried the code letters CV-V. No450 Squadron RAAF also captured a number of aircraft but I can’t recall a Macchi Mc202/205 among them.

    in reply to: Who else here collects aircraft marking? #1131388
    Keith Gaff
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    Aircraft markings

    Fascinating, this piece of side fabric comes off CAC Wirraway A20-649 which was originally owned by the Moorabbin Air Museum before it was sold and eventually became the property of Kermit Weeks. How did you acquire it if I may ask.

    Keith Gaff

    in reply to: RAAF Mseum to maybe acquire Spitfire #1138626
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    Spitfire

    I agree with Mark 12, that Spitfire should have been left in the mangroves, not because it was some noble eco tourist attraction, but because it was an absolute piece of rubbish. I believe it was the home of a salt water crocodile. The corrosion was rampant and restoring / rebuilding it was out of the question. You might as well have started from scratch and built a new one.

    The RAAF Museum has a proud history of resurrecting historic airframes for display at Point Cook including the Supermarine Walrus and the Hawker Demon and an assessment that they did not “cover themselves with glory” over a pile of “fuzz” that was once a Spitfire is nonsense. It’s easy to criticize on a forum but committing scant resources, manpower and money to rebuilding such a wreck is not the best idea. I favour the Mosquito currently being restored at Point Cook: it’s rarer and far more relevant to the history of the RAAF and the Australian aircraft industry. As for the latest Spitfire that’s being recovered: maybe we could give it to the croc to replace the home he lost.

    Keith Gaff

    in reply to: Lockheed P-38 developments #1156913
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    Copyright

    Hello Peter,

    I certainly wasn’t intending to be less than civil. I was trying to make the point that the laws regarding copyright are, for the most part; ineffectual. Unless you can back up your claim with hard, cold cash and be prepared to spend heaps of it you can forget it. Web sites are full of copyright material and if JDK’s analysis was correct there would be a plethora of law suits. The fact that there isn’t tends to prove my point.

    As I noted, it isn’t legal and it isn’t ethical and I don’t endorse the practice of breaching copyright, but it is a fact of life and I await, with interest, the first prosecution for an offence.

    in reply to: Lockheed P-38 developments #1158040
    Keith Gaff
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    Copyright

    Hello JDK

    I was interested to see you raised the old bogey man of copyright. I’m sure you would agree that the rise of the net and developments in technology have all but destroyed copyright. These days the only way to ensure that material is not reproduced is not to publish at all and that rather defeats the exercise.

    Copyright is self help law; unlike, say, design or trademark registration where there is clear legislation and legal processes in place. With copyright the onus is on the person claiming copyright to prove it. Just putting copyright on something proves absolutely nothing. I’ve seen aircraft picture websites claiming copyright over Charles E Brown photographs. Absolute rubbish.

    Not only is a breach of copyright difficult to prove it can be horrendously expensive to prosecute. I have first hand experience of just how expensive it can be. I doubt any aviation artist with PHOTOSHOP in hand would have the resources to launch court action. Even if they could the prize is hardly worth the expense.

    Also a breach of copyright is not assuaged by an acknowledgement of the work when it is nicked and posted on the net. Unless you have written permission to do so it is a breach. As for what is fair with regard to review or study the law is so vague as to be unintelligible.

    Hard cold fact: unless you are ripping off Disney or some similar organisation your chances of being sued for breach of copyright are nil. Aviation artists and authors can huff and puff all they want; unless they have buckets of money backing them up; they’ll never blow the house down: they won’t even try.

    It doesn’t make it right or ethical: it’s just the way it is and it will only get worse.

    in reply to: The Ultimate Aviation Book? #1101520
    Keith Gaff
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    The ultimate Aviation Book

    Depends upon your area of interest. My pick: War Prizes by Phil Butler.

    in reply to: HS – 748 / Andover Perserved? #1146282
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    Preserved HS 748

    http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z208/kgaff_2007/hs748.jpg

    Above is a picture of the HS 748 preserved at the RAAF Museum at Point Cook. The RAAF used the 748 as a navigation trainer. Since this photograph was taken the aircraft has been covered in Spraylat to prevent deterioration from the ravages of the none too kind Point Cook weather.

    in reply to: F-86As flying Hunter and DH 110 chase #1137031
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    Sabre Pic

    Below is a photograph of the two Sabres visiting Hatfield. It comes from the book F-86 Sabre by Maurice Allward which was published in 1978.

    http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z208/kgaff_2007/sabres.jpg

    in reply to: Scrapyard Photos; Any More? #1118546
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    Tocumwal scrap yard

    One of the largest aircraft scrap yards in Australia was located at Tocumwal Airfield on the the state border between Victoria and New South Wales. It became a storage and disposal facility after World War 2 and remained in operation until the early 1960’s. It was towards the end of the scrapping at Tocumwal that these photographs below were taken;
    http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z208/kgaff_2007/scrap1.jpg

    The largest group of aircraft scrapped at Tocumwal were CAC Wirraways. Seen in December 1960 is Wirraway A20-256 is seen in the initial stages of scrapping.
    http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z208/kgaff_2007/scrap2.jpg

    In late 1961 the remains of around 30 single seat Vampires were at Tocumwal. Many such as A79-796 were in the colours of No.2 O.C.U. For some unknown reason these aircraft were stored indoors in one of Tocumwals huge hangars.
    http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z208/kgaff_2007/scrap3.jpg

    Two Boeing Washingtons were sent to Australia in the 1950’s for trials work at Woomera in South Australia. Their service careers in Australia were short. One example WW353 was sent to Tocumwal for scrapping. Seen in March 1962 the process is well under way. The sole surviving component is the nose wheel undercarriageleg which is in the possession of the Moorabbin Air Museum.
    http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z208/kgaff_2007/scrap4.jpg

    Another resident at Tocumwal was the Gloster Meteor.Here is seen Meteor F8 A77-865 undergoing scrapping in September 1961. This was one of the last seven Meteors scrapped at Tocumwal.

    in reply to: Post your Firefly pictures here. #1164136
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    Firefly Pictures

    Somebody asked if there was a picture of Bob Diemerts Firefly. here it is, Merlin engine, 6 seats and all.

    http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z208/kgaff_2007/FIREFLY-1.jpg

    in reply to: Post your Firefly pictures here. #1164197
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    Firefly Pictures

    Here’s an interesting Fairey Firefly. This is one of four Australian Mk V’s that were locally converted to two seat trainers. Fairey Aviation in Australia used the conversion kit for the earlier Marks as a basis for the modification.

    http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z208/kgaff_2007/firefly2seat.jpg

    in reply to: EE Canberra – Post your Pictures here #1183378
    Keith Gaff
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    Canberra

    OK fellas. Since I’ve disturbed you with the Karinga trials pics I thought I had best make it up to with with an image of the Canberra that got away. This was an English built T.4 serialled WD954 whish was used in the trials and suffered some damage. The aircraft originally came to Australia as a crew trainer and was later used as a trials aircraft before being grounded and allocated to the Karinga bomb trials. It was acquired by Pearce Dunn of the now defunct Warbirds Museum at Mildura in Victoria. He sold to the South Australian Historic Aircraft Museum in Adelaide where it remains in storage.

    http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z208/kgaff_2007/wd954.jpg

    in reply to: EE Canberra – Post your Pictures here #1184822
    Keith Gaff
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    Canberra

    I had another look at the original slide and it has been scanned back to front.

    in reply to: May Day F-111 #1185876
    Keith Gaff
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    May Day F-111

    The reason the aircraft was trucked down was that is was cheaper. The equipment and personnel required to remove various pieces of equipment and a number of harmful substances from the aircraft were based at RAAF Amberley. It would have been very expensive to fly the aircraft to Avalon (couldn’t get it into Point Cook) and then transport the team and equipment there to do the job.

    It would have had to have been dismantled at Avalon and trucked to Point Cook in any event.

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