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  • in reply to: Iran makes Misagh-2. #1818958
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    And also against hmvy s.I saw a thin tungsten rod in the crosssection picture of missile.It has a programable detonator warhead to use against infantry at any distance.Good seeker.It does seem very advanced and imaginative.But still not found evidence of electronic warfare use?
    Mr. marvan,i am still waiting for your comment?!

    No any tungsten rod, no programmable detonator, no possibility to shhot against ground target. This is AA missile with seeker copied from Strela-2M.
    Even launchers box is the same.

    in reply to: Iran makes Misagh-2. #1819109
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    The ministry said the “advanced missile” could also be used for “electronic warfare”. -What kind of electronic warfare??…Not likely.
    Cloudy day was used because of spy satelites i supose.

    Yes, but not likely – not possible. These people are crazy! I cnow very well russian propaganda but his is beyond.

    Cloudy day or moonless night is the best background to test such a missile.
    Sunshine day with clouds is the worst case.

    in reply to: Iran makes Misagh-2. #1819166
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    A realy clear test. Try it in sunny day.
    Taking into consideration pure aerodynamics, the speed could be not more 400-450m/sec and range 3500m.
    It is better to copy the Igla missile.

    in reply to: Accuracy of Missile Guidance Systems #1819438
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    Inertial navigation is not suitable for aerial target even in initial stage.
    You should implement adaptive algorithm.
    After finding, recognizing and locking on the target, your algorithm should calculate the relative speed, position and course and that is the initial data for navigation algorithm.
    For ship that is relatively low speed target, you could use low level flight with raising trajectory at appropriate distance and top attack.
    For aerial target proportional navigation is better.
    With good onboard computer(s) and DSP you must have 100 percent direct hit, but consider non-contact fuse also.
    Active radar + optical (UV+IR+Visual recognition) is the best combination against cuntermeasures.
    That is my opinion. In fact I’m former missile designer (manportable), so may be I’m wrong regarding to the big missiles.

    in reply to: Accuracy of Missile Guidance Systems #1819440
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    OK!
    Accuracy of Missile Guidance Systems depend on many factors including countermeasures. What kind of guidance methot you are intending to use.

    in reply to: Accuracy of Missile Guidance Systems #1819458
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    Looking at a weapon system for a Future Frigate for the Royal Navy around 2030. Common missile would mean half the research, procurement and through life costs and unfortunately everything comes down to money!

    Weapon system is not only a missile.
    Regarding to the missile itself AA missile has higher speed and maneuvrability, relatively small warhead, good accuracy and non-contact fuse. AS missile needs more hevier warhead, but do not need so high maneuvrability and speed considering target’s speed.

    in reply to: Accuracy of Missile Guidance Systems #1819561
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    Combination between anti-aircraft and anti-ship missile? But why?

    in reply to: 9K38 Igla #1819581
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    Hope that BAe and Northrop engineers know what they are doing.
    US$ 2 mil is not so expensive, but probably it shuld be mounted at least 4 systems on each plane to cover all bottom hemispere.
    Russian manpads have narrow field of view, stupid analogous electronics and proportional navigation. So laser should be pointed exactly to missile seeker to blind it, expecting that blind flying missile will miss the target. For maneuvring fighter it could be expected, but for landing Jumbo?

    in reply to: 9K38 Igla #1819586
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    After about 10 years the rocket fuel will start to break down too… it becomes a use it or lose it situation then.

    Depends on storage conditions, but at least 10-15 yr for fuel and even 20 yr. for battery.
    According to my experience, usual problems are connected with mechanical defects, corrosion, so hope that the number of serviseable missiles is decreasing.

    in reply to: 9K38 Igla #1819606
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    Yes, I’m afraid because of:
    1. Proliferation and availability of manpads and possibility of terrorist usage. Do not forget “second hand” and black market. So missiles initially sold to one country could be found in other.
    According to US reports approx 900 missiles (Redeye or Stinger) has been given to mujaheds and at least 100 are missing. Russia claims 50,000 Strela-2 and undisclosed number of Strela-2 and Iglas. What about Chinese, Pakistani, British and French manpads? What about license production in Soviet sttelites?
    2. Export oriented development of such missiles in Russia and claims for high effectiveness. Such a commercial presentation could draw attention of Bin Laden rather than of official customer.
    3. Need for development of countermeasures.
    Who will pay for increased security? – Passengers!
    Even unsuccessful attempt to hit commercial aircraft will cause catastrophical results.

    I hope that most of Strela-2 missiles are out of service, but Iglas …

    in reply to: 9K38 Igla #1819657
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    Igla and especially Igla-1 are wide proliferated and are one of bestsellers in the Black weapon market. Usual sources for black market are army inventory of former Soviet republics.
    But shelf life depends on storage conditions and maintenance.
    Most of “customers” are purchasing only missiles and launchers.
    No spare parts, no training and testing means.
    Even hand held weapon, but Igla is not AK-47!
    As result, after several years missiles become unoperable.
    Remember that Russian manpads are not maintenance free.
    If certain country do not have such missile system in the inventory usual delivery should include N missiles with spares kit #1 (individual), N/100 spares kit #2, N/300 spares kit#3, approx. N/5 launchers and related spare kits, trainig sets with spare kits, testing means with spare kits.

    Btw, do you know what type of testing equipment is used for Igla-s?

    in reply to: 9K38 Igla #1820273
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    US tests with SA-14 Gremlin show it to be quite a good missile.

    Russian Army use of MANPADS is immaterial… this is a Russian company selling material to foreign countries, which it is legally entitled to do. It is not like the US giving away dangerous weapons to freedom fighters in Afghanistan and then not getting back unused items. These are bought and paid for commercial transactions… you know… capitalism.

    ‘…US tests with SA-14 Gremlin show it to be quite a good missile…’
    Very good joke – i like it! Thanks!
    Btw, that is the one of the reasons for 9/11 (and in London too) – both overstating or neglecting the threat.

    in reply to: 9K38 Igla #1820803
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    Maxpain, any evidence?
    Do you know when was first recorded combat use of Strela-2?

    Pesho, no offence, but take a look at history of these weapons.
    Consider other russian short-range AA weapons developed to related period and their place in combat order of Soviet/Russian Army.

    I do not mean that such a missile could be appropriate AA ‘shield’ to submarine.

    Guys, this thread should be renamed to MANPADS.

    in reply to: 9K38 Igla #1820849
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    “Russian MANPADS are ambush weapons, hence vety suitable for terrorists.”
    Yeah,only russian MANPADS are suitable for terrorists.Western one have attitude problem with them….

    Russia do not need MANPADS – it is evident considering russian military doctrine and short range AA inventory.

    in reply to: 9K38 Igla #1820879
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    Why people continue to repeat myths developed by russian propaganda? 😡

    Strela-2 has a very poor effectiveness. Even machine gun is better and much more cheaper.

    Strela-2M and Strela-3 are the names of unsuccessful attemt to improve Strela-2.
    Igla series is the next attempt.

    According to developer: Igla – missile weight 10.6kg/warhead weight 1.3 kg vs. Igla-S – missile weight 11.7kg/warhead weight 2.5kg. Easy evaluation shows that comparing Igla with Igla-S, warhead is heavier by additive factor of 1.2kg and missile itself also is heavier by 1.1kg. Where is so called ‘lightweight electronics’?

    Igla-S is slightly improved Igla – same engine, but better aerodynamics, heavier wathead and non-contact fuse. Non-conract fuse is the main improvement – previous versions can miss small target.

    Russian MANPADS are ambush weapons, hence vety suitable for terrorists.

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