I would never suggest such a thing HP111. The possibilty had not entered my mind. Without rules society would cease to exist and it would be every man for himself. On the other hand if good sense can prevail over the usual over-reaction to things such as have just happened we stand a chance of returning to a freer society.

I don’t see that suggesting that the ‘failed loop’ (actually a stalled our split S) was not the cause but the effect is exactly nit-picking. It might be viewable as speculation but I bet you have a pretty good idea what the problem was too?!

It will all calm down anyway within a few days.
The papers will stop their scare-mongering and the ‘powers that be’ will relax once the pressure is off. Then once the cause is ascertained by the AAIB life will return to some semblance of normality.

A very nice job he made of it too!

I totally missed that – I should get out (of the workshop) more!

Robin

Actually my post was intended to make the point that there can be ‘over the top’ in both directions and it is wise to quietly wait and see what comes of it. Rather like the well-known sign-off line ‘There are two sides to every story – the truth is usually somewhere in between’.

As for the spiritual aspects I do realise that many of our number resolutely refuse to believe anything that their normal senses can’t detect. I have experienced enough to know that our normal senses aren’t designed to detect everything that is. Even our eyes which we depend on for the majority of our sensory input detect only a very narrow waveband. I would rather keep an open mind than close my eyes to everything that doesn’t conform to my particular world view.

Robin

Just looked at one of the reviews:

“Conspiracy theory nonsense: riddled with factual errors, hearsay, and ignores dead ends to instead conflate them with some other part of “the story” to keep the narrative going. Easier to face facts that there really is no conspiracy, mostly it was just vapourware and wishful thinking!”

I didn’t realise that this sort of garbage was around. Sadly I can’t erase my annoyance now that I know.

Know what?

That reads as precisely the sort of ‘review’ that might be written by someone trying to cover up the conspiracy. Who wrote it, who does he/she have contacts with and what are his/her affiliations?
A proper investigator would be asking these questions of both sides.

The fact that the train is supposedly found in an occupied country has no bearing on its importance. The Nazis believed they would conquer the world. Just look at the effort put into the ‘Atlantic wall’ to protect ‘their’ country. Poland was the first new land to be won. The population was just a new source of slaves. This was to be the ‘Thousand year Reich’.

Some reports are interesting and worth bearing in mind for when other factors come to light. This is probably just one of the more peripheral ones.

So far as the Big Picture is concerned the SS’s involvement with occult practices seems fairly well-attested and may well have been the reason that the Nazis failed. After all if you are going to trust someone with your life and future you need to know them well enough to know they won’t lead you astray. It may very well have been their quest for worldly power that blinded them to the danger and led them to trust the great liar. During the course of the war there were several major decisions we find hard to understand unless we bring the occult connections into account.

Robin

I don’t disbelieve in ghosts – particularly since my wife and I saw the same man in broad daylight – so I watched the videos. Did YOU see anything? I didn’t. Not a ‘figure’ in anything, drab or still less RAF blue. So where the idea that there was a Spitfire pilot (could you tell the difference between that and a Hurricane pilot for instance?) came from I can only guess.

Perhaps the clue was hidden in the text somewhere (that I didn’t read)… perhaps you have to be ‘on’ something and there at the time?

Robin