Well, to start with, do you have the serial number?
Are they awaiting a Full Moon ?
Yep, apparently that is when the water will be high enough…:D
In my opinion, for what it is worth, the Wilson book is a far better read. His “Men of Air” is also great. As to the best BC book, probably Nuremburg Raid by Middlebrook?;)
Hi Andy,
I’ve always understood it to be basically at the whim of the C/O. I believe there were guidelines, but it was his decision.
Was he the only one granted a commission? Were all the awards made at the same time? Have you tried the Australian Archive to see if the papers of the other gentlemen are available, it may have a copy of the citation?
Interesting story, you must be very proud of him.
Jim
Thanks for that,
Have now ordered the book from the library.;)
I thought it was a reasonable program. There wasn’t much new information there, but it was about as much detail as you could get in a mainstream program.
I’m curious as to what Alexandra Churchill’s interest is in McCudden, he was clearly her interest. Is she writing a book about him? I think he is due another biography.
I’d be interested to hear if anyone has more details about the Mannock in Laventie theory, I’ve googled it and it looks like it is not universally agreed. Years ago there was a video called “Where they flew and where they fell” that contained a longer examination of the facts that are known, but IIRC, there were other suggested candidates for the grave.
Men of the Battle of Britain has details of Gp Capt Fraser Barton Sutton. Probably the same man, all the details seem to fit. I’ll precis the details tomorrow if no-one else does…
snap!
At East Fortune, if you want to use a tripod you have to get a pass and sign a form stating that you will not publish the photos anywhere. Maybe the RAF Museum has the same policy?
Best wishes
Steve P
Probably an image protection thing. If there is money to be made from pictures of their aircraft, they want to be the ones who make it. Personal, private use is fine. BBMF does the same.
Again,
A similar story to many. First went to Hendon in late 70’s. Absolutely loved the place, used to ignore Duxford and go at least a couple of times a year.
It is still a great museum, if you’ve never been then you have to go, but it was so much better. Duxford and Old Warden, for example, feel alive, even when things don’t change that much I at least get the sense that they are being cared for. Hendon just feels dead. I know there are people that care there, they must be sad about the state of affairs.
Bookshop used to be great, I used to nip in there if I was going past on the M25. Now it is overpriced, very limited, and frankly full of c**p.
I remember in the early 80’s there was a big sign outside saying that they had Douglas Bader’s medals, and it was great to go in and see them. These days you often can’t get into see them, and when I did a while ago, there was a huge dead fly laying in the case in front of them.
The problems are down to money. I can see the merit of free entry, but eventually it will all get shabby to the point that even the people who donβt really care about the RAF and just have a free day out will stop going.
I pay Β£50 odd a year to be a friend of Duxford and go probably six times a year. I would be happy to do the same for Hendon.
I’m working on a project at the moment at RAF Coningsby. Would love to see any images of Canberras from the mid 50s or so at CBY:)
For info,
The DFC register doesn’t record a citation, just the LG date, etc.
Knew I’d seen that badge somewhere!
Mosquito at War, pg 49, FBVI of 613 Sqn.
It says that it was in that a/c that Gen Browning, GOC British Airborne Corps was flown into Normandy in July 44.
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Hi,
I’m assuming that your father was J K Ronald?
If so, his award is published in the London Gazette. It doesn’t have any citation, this often means an award given at the end of a tour for a period of sustained effort, rather than for one individual act of bravery.
The London Gazette site appears to be down at the minute, but when it is up you can search it for his award. The Gazette date is 20/7/45, and it is on page 3782.
It may also be worth Googling for the online edition of 617s Operational Record Book. This is a daily diary kept by all units of the RAF. It will have several mentions of his name, what operations he flew on, etc
There isn’t any online list of DFC recipients I’m aware of. There are a couple of helpful books, Honour the Air Forces has a list of virtually all of the DFCs. There is a two volume list of the DFC’s, The Distinguished Flying Cross and how it was won, but this is quite difficult to find.
Hope this helps π
A couple of suggestions…
Hi Yvonne,
Better declare up front that you know me already, I was going to wind you up and be anonymous:diablo:
In the 1997 BBMF brochure, there is a list of all the BBMF aircraft with all of the squadron schemes they have worn. Pictures of all of these schemes must exist, and presumably you have a reasonable amount of space for images, so why not have a much larger history for each aircraft.
Secondly, in the brochures over the years, there have been loads of great pieces from veterans, most of them are sadly no longer with us. What about extracting them and creating them as pdfs so people can download and read them?:)
Happy to chat at work, you have my extension…:p
Jim R
As promised…
Air 2/9605
Sgt Pickering was W/Op of a Liberator of 120 Sqn detailed to carry out an important reconnaissance of the Norwegian coast on 28 May 42. Sgt Pickering had been with the sqn since its formation and has flown with the same captain throughout. On the occasion when his aircraft was attacked by three ME109s he showed exceptional courage by takingthe place of the wounded rear gunner and destroying one of the enemy aircraft though he himself had previously been wounded and rendered unconscious. When the third W/Op became disabled and the bomb bay was a mass of flames, he again showed outstanding courage and initiative by taking over the radio and sending out an S.O.S. Throughout the whole action he displayed outstanding coolness and courage. These qualities continued to be displayed in spite of his wounds, after his aircraft had been shot down and crashed into the sea and throughout a period of 31 days in which the survivors trekked across mountainous and dangerous country to reach neutral territory.
Remarks by Stn Cdr
I readily concur in the recommendation of the Sqn Cdr. Sgt Pickering, although sorely wounded and at one time actually unconscious, rallied himself with such courage and determination that he destroyed an enemy aircraft. He subsequently so kept control of his own painful condition that he was able to take full share in the struggle against odds of weather and uninhabited country which enabled him and his comrades to reach neutral territory.