Damn, this zombie thread reminds me we haven’t seen Sean O’Connor in four years here. I miss his posts.

Off topic, what happened to SOC?

Mirage F1 with Martel and AS30; F-4E with HOBOS, Walleye, Maverick and GBUs were pretty much true multirole aircrafts on their time.

F-15A and F-14A was the state of art with superior airframes, avionics and engines. But it is like having F-22A during 2000s.. it is nice to have but logical to use F-teens

T129 is almost totally new attack helicopter, very little common with A129. Like F5A and F5E Tiger-II

What about Mirage-2000D and Tornado GR4 Radar, Navigation and Self Defence EW systems?

How can we compare Decca Doppler Type-72 vs Antilope-50?

What is the average cost of F-16 AESA retrofit?

Flash News..

Turkish Airforce’s F16s shot down a Syrian Mig-23 few hours ago.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-shoots-down-syrian-regime-plane-after-violating-airspace-pm-confirms.aspx?pageID=238&nID=63965&NewsCatID=352

I think Active Radar Guided BVR Missiles can be slightly better than Semi Active Radar Guided BVR missile against modern aircraft.. Possible vulnerabilities:

1. Jamming to main radar of fighter aircraft to stop track both missile/aircraft
2. Jamming to mid-course update links
3. Jamming to missile active radar in terminal phase
4. Jamming to Link16 or similar system to prevent full usage of BVR missiles.

It is quite early to talk about future foreign sales of both aircrafts. I belive European producer will boots their market presence with “stealthy” Eurofighter and Rafale derivatives; but Swedens has to stick with gripenNG at least 2-3 decade. But in the end Turkish TF-X can be easily sold to from MidEast to Mid Asian markets; where as KF-X/IF-X could dominate south-east Asia.

I think European aerospace industry powerful enough to market new competetive fighter aircrafts against up-coming “new generation” figters. But if you look back European UAV industry performance, there is a risk even with superior technologlical capabilities, to create useful solutions.

For USA, they will concantrate so called 6th generation fighters. I dont see any cheap alternative of F35.