Does Gripen have a Missile Approach Warning System (MAWS) that JF-17 does?
one such circular sensor is located at the bottom of the tail and above the engine exhaust http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/1662/jf171copy.jpg
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/fc1xiaolongjf17thund/
Are you guys sure the JF-17 is FBW ?
JF-17 is equipped with digital FBW with a hydraulic system as backup. ๐
Q. Currently, the JF-17 prototypes are equipped with a mix of hydraulic and FBW system. Will the production models retain this unique system or will they be equipped with a complete FBW system?
A. The flight controls of JF-17 aircraft are commanded through six computers and operated by two hydraulic systems. The six โflight control computersโ have a lot of redundancy within themselves, therefore, the aircraft would keep flying normally, even if couple of computers fail. This redundancy is a common feature of almost all the fly-by-wire control systems in the world. However, a unique feature of JF-17 aircraft is that it can fly like a conventional aircraft even when all its flight control computers fail. This arrangement is an added safety feature, which provides an additional advantage to the aircraft without any adverse effects. Therefore, it would be retained in the serial production aircraft as well.
source: http://www.pakdef.info/pakmilitary/airforce/ac/jf17interview.html
Would it not be fairer to compare the Gripen with the J-10 ?
J-10 is a much bigger plane with a much bigger and more powerful engine and a bigger radar. J-10 is F-16 sized whereas Gripen and JF-17 are much smaller. Excluding pitot, J-10 is 15.49 meters long whereas Gripen is 14.10 meters long and JF-17 is 14.26 meters long.
I give Gripen’s HUD the edge over JF-17’s, though this year JF-17 gets the new F-22 style HUD this is being fitted to J-10 and J-20.
Gripen HUD http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg229/scaled.php?server=229&filename=cockpitgripen.jpg&res=medium
JF-17 HUD http://pafwallpapers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/jf-17_thunder_understanding-_cockpit.jpg
JF-17’s KLJ-7 radar should be comparable to Gripen’s PS-05. I imagine both are being replaced by an AESA this year.
Isn’t the JF-17 basically just a warmed over MiG-21? In other words, has it got anything more to offer compared to the Indian air force MiG-21 Bison, avionics etc?
Um no. JF-17 is developed from Super 7 which was supposed to have been the replacement of J-7 AKA MiG-21. Super 7 was developed in the 1980s based on F-20 Tigershark and YF-17 Cobra from Northrop Grumman, which is why it looks like a mix of F-20 and YF-17, having the former’s general layout and air intakes and tail and the latter’s LERX and wings. This also being why Super 7 looks like F/A-18 which was developed from YF-17.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/fc1xiaolongjf17thund/
Super 7 http://oldimg.fyjs.cn/Mon_0705/27_5847_e276950c95f89d8.jpg
Super 7 was shelved after the 1989 Tiananmen incident in favor of J-10, and was brought out of the mothballs in the late 1990s due to the Pakistani requirement and developed into JF-17 which has updated airframe design, avionics, and weapons. JF-17 and even its predecessor Super 7 have nothing to do with MiG-21, as they were developed from American designs.
On the other hand JF-17 has rather limited capabilities, no advanced targeting pod, and no BVR missile.
JF-17 is armed with PL-12 air-to-air which is in the class of AMRAAM and YJ-83 anti-ship, both of which use active radar homing. Its targeting pod is the Chinese WMD-7 which is sort of like Sniper and Litening. JF-17 has a VERY advanced EW system mounted at the top of its tail, and can also carry the BM/KG300G autonomous jamming pod.
http://cnair.top81.cn/fighter/FC-1_SD-10A1.jpg
http://himg2.huanqiu.com/attachment/100720/zip1279595582/1279595582_9.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/JF17-10-113-1742.jpg
Oh wait, F-22 raptor and wright brother’s flying machine both depend on atmospheric oxygen to fly, the latter being an early 1900’s design.
All aircraft require air to fly. The difference is in the engines. The first planes used piston engines. F-22 uses turbofan engines.
You really should compare JF-17 to F-22. Maybe the Raptor stands a chance even though it doesn’t have the mighty DSI.
Not a bad suggestion. F-22 still uses the same air intake technology as Q-5 does, the latter being a 1960s plane.
F-22 http://www.kbvp.com/sites/default/files/images/F22%20front%20view%20tight.preview.jpg
Q-5 http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/dinovandoorn/IMG_0142.jpg
Yes.. Rb15F
Looks better than YJ-83 ๐ฎ
LOL at 3 girls in 3 hair colors ๐
Yes, RBS-15. Which is top secret and all so it’s impossible to find public domain sources about it.
But its pointless anyway to compare JF-17 to Gripen. Since the former has DSI, it is superior in every way. You really should compare JF-17 to F-22. Maybe the Raptor stands a chance even though it doesn’t have the mighty DSI.
LMAO ๐
and RBS-15 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBS-15
What does Gripen’s composites do? JF-17 has a thrust to weight ratio of 0.95 while Gripen has a thrust to weight ratio of 0.97.
Umm…. you realise you’re comparing an all metal airframe to one featuring extensive use of composites?
Doesn’t JF-17 use composites extensively?
Can Gripen carry anti-ship cruise missiles like JF-17 which is armed with YJ-83 missiles that have a range of over 255+ km?
Why, JF17 of course — It has DSI! ๐
Good point. JF-17 has a more technologically advanced airframe. Don’t forget that JF-17 is the world’s first plane that incorporates DSI, both in the prototype stage and in the operational stage.

Gripen has proven itself as a very competent system both at red flag and in Libya.
There weren’t even any Libyan planes in the skies in Libya.