F-117 was detected by old 1960s radar, so what makes you think F-35 can evade an AESA?

Nonsense. ~ Mach 1,8 at best altitude and ~ Mach 2 with DSI. All the other claims are not official ones or claimed on web-sites to stay polite. Some fanboys like to forget that above Mach 1,8 the heat stress becomes an issue and with it limitations from material and cooling demands. By that all modern fighters with AAMs and some RAM-treating are limited to a practical top-speed of Mach ~1,6 or Mach ~1,8 in general.
The Rafale is a prominent example about that.
Top-speed:
2.125 km/h or Mach 1,97 ( 10.975 m at −50 °C)
Service top-speeds:
1.915 km/h or Mach 1,78 ( 10.975 m at −50 °C)
1.397 km/h or Mach 1,13 (over sea at 20 °C)

Under optimum conditions during test flights it may have peaked above that values briefly, but even the lower service top-speeds published are reached in parts of the flying envelope only. 😎

Interesting. Thanks for sharing. This could be why PL-12D ramjet Mach 7 AAMs are being field this year.

J-10 Generation Zwei’s AESA radar, much better than those fitted in Rafale and F-16 Block 52+

exhibition board http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/j10baesaradar.jpg/

exhibition model http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/j10bradar.jpg/

spy shot http://ptisidiastima.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/cb2.jpg

wasn’t EADS hired to redesign LCA’s airframe?

Quoted for spectacular fail.
Also utter irrelevancy. Way to avoid the point that no-one wants the JF-17 so far.

Hey why isn’t China helping those civilians? I thought it was a world leader and all.

China never intervenes in other people’s affairs. Plus, JF-17 is one spectacular plane and is used by the Pakistani air force. Pakistan being a Muslim country means it shall soon be introduced to other Muslim countries such as Turkey and UAE and Saudi etc.

JF-17 cockpit, state of the art

http://www.defence.pk/gallery/data/649/medium/PAFJF-17SimulatorMAKS2007001.jpg

http://www.defence.pk/gallery/data/649/medium/JF-17_SIM_2.jpg

Those thousands of years are irrelevant, sorry. The past several centuries have not been too “hot” for China. 😮

Oh yea? So what, what has America invented besides poisonous useless things that poison the world and people’s minds?

China is the world leader, dontcha know?!?

Correction. A world leader, not the world leader. China is an old school world power with thousands of years of science, maths, and innovations behind it.

DSI alone makes it better !?! 😮 :p

Ok, I get it. That means the JF-17’s airframe is even better than the F-16 Block 52+ and the Rafale and the Typhoon and is only bested by the F-35 and J-10B..very good..

who says the WS-10 is better than the F110/F100/M-88 ?! :rolleyes:

who says that the J-10B has a better cockpit than the other 2? or that it has better ECM? who says it has a better radar? :rolleyes:

As a matter of fact, JF-17’s airframe is better than those of F-16 Block 52+ and Rafale due to the use of DSI. J-10 Gen 2’s radar is phased array, perhaps AESA or perhaps not and is certainly not less technologically advanced as compared to Rafale’s PESA. Plus, J-10 Gen 2’s cockpit is better than JF-17’s which as 3 big LCDs, and has a large green holographic HUD.

JF-17’s cockpit http://www.jf-17.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/cockpit4.jpg

AFAIK, F-16 Block 52+ still only has 2 small LCDs