spasibo bolshoi!

Apparently not. You could look it up on the lockheed martin site if you want the us brochure figures. You could also roll a pair of dice. Aint no way you are going to get anything like real numbers on such things i’m afraid.

here, eat some humble pie…………

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nomnomnom i love getting served in such an enlightening manner. I had NO idea that was at all possible. Thank you very much 😀

well the su-30 does have these square, straight engine intakes and straight fins that are exactly perpendicular to the tail and wings. i dont find “barn door”RCS size for the flanker at all unconvincing. Afaik straight angles and engline compressor faces are what makes for RCS.

Happy new years Tango III and all the rest!

That PAK-DA looks awesome. Won’t it be underpowered by just two engines?

so whats with the convex wings? it almost looks like a bowl or halfpipe head- or stern-on! Is that huge amount of wing-flex an intentional byproduct of the materials used? Looks great though!

So while they took forever and cost far too much in the making, those engines might actually be pretty darn good? I would love to see EADS making different sized planes such as the aforementioned twin and the enlarged A400.

How feasible would it be to adapt these monsters to helicopter use? I reckon two of them could power something that could be right in the CH-53 or Mi-26s niche. I bet the german army’s ’53s are getting long in the tooth, and i wouldnt be surprised if the french would just LOVE to have a couple of the biggest helicopters in the world in their inventory…

Not so much a joke as an expression of the hopes and dreams of chinese aviation 😎 mostly dreams in that picture yea. :dev2: