These two links have some of the pics I took during the CV-61/CV-64/BB-63/CGN-9 joint formation and 16″ gun-firing photo-op just south of the Aleutian Islands in November 1986, which is where that photo of New Jersey firing comes from (that was taken from the island, by someone else… all mine were from the flight deck, like the pic posted below).
KEWL! Especially like those shots of New Jersey firing over both sides. Also, missing those nice cruiser designs (although only Long Beach is of course the last rue cruiser hull since WW2).

Are parts for the SM-1 still in production? I had thought that they have to be decommissioned because of lack of spares.
The missile is still supported as it is still in foreign services (Egypt, Poland, Turkey, among others)
Taiwan built 8 modified Perry class frigates, laying down the first in 10990 and commissioning the last in 2004, all with SM1 & Mk 13 launchers… so I don’t see any difficulty with Taiwan modifying them however they wish to.
They could even go to the effort of building the above-deck parts of the launchers to restore them to service (the USN left the below-decks parts in place).
Most likely, however, is for Taiwan to just buy the parts needed from the US to restore the Mk13s to service, if not just have it done in the US before taking possession of them.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/taiwan/cheng-kung.htm
Rational would be to reinstall the Mk13 launcher arm and STIR. Practically, I don’t think this will happen and I think the fit of the KNoxes will be moved (like it did from Gearings to Knoxes)
Edit: if US is willing to provide Mk13 parts, that would be preferable. Knox SM1 boxes could be used on Kang Ding then.
Two Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigates.
Taiwan to buy two frigates from US: defence minister
THis should proove interesting! Current OHPs in USN service have Mk13 launcher (Standard SM1, Harpoon) removed. Knoxes in ROCN service have been refitted with boxlaunched Harpoon and SM1 and STIR, taken from earlier modernized exUSN Gearings. Might we see 10x SM1 reappear on these OHPs, in boxlaunched version?

More here: http://www.naval.com.br/blog/tag/knox/#axzz2BL5ISxLs
Also:
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/17322422.jpg
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/17322880.jpg

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/row/rocn/dd-912-gearing-DNSN9400793_JPG.jpg
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/row/rocn/dd-921-gearing-DNSN9400792_JPG.jpg
Your view of Long Beach (November 1, 1987)?
Maybe you also caught a glimpse of this
(USS New Jersey taken from USS Ranger, 1986 😉




Ah you are correct Washan, forgot about the torpedo tubes on the Talwar.
Always liked the big tubes on the Soviet era ships.
What is 20380 and 22350 going to rely on for stand-off (or medium range) anti-submarine work? ASW Kalibr from UKSK?
I suppose it is just Paket and the heli: the number of cells UKSK is too limited to carry anything but ASuW missiles. Put differently: what use would 2-3 rounds of 91re2 do on 22380 and at best 8 at given time on 22350.
Type 094 “hump” is bigger than I realized before.
Couldn’t have come as totla surprise…?
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I was bored last night on Halloween and came up with some interesting shapes in my paint program by combining prototype features. Were there ever prototypes that caught your whimsy although in reality were probably left to history? Share your story or digital paint hack.
My frankenplane is the MiG-21I with the scoop intake and solid nose combined with the E-2 Ogival wing prototype for Tu-144 research:
That’s much like the double delta F-16XL
Rough indication of dimensions? Length, diameter, span?
On the 11356 ships, RPK-8 is complement to the 533mm heavyweight (2000-2300kg, of which 300kg warhead) torpedoes used for shipbased ASW, providing close-in ASW as well as anti-torpedo defence. ASW aside, the torpedoes provide a usefull secondary ASuW capability (out to 20km). But they don’t provide anti-torpedo capability.
The new russian ships (20380, 22350) no longer get heavyweight torpedos, they only have Paket, which provides both anti-sub and anti-torpedo capability. This or similar 324mm lightweight (<=400kg, of which 60-80kg is warhead) torpedo is presumably also used by ASW helicopter and any VL 91RE2, giving a degree of standardization.
Loosing the RBU would leave the 53-65 and SET-65E equipped ships vulnerable. Using both light and heavy tubes and fish does not seem a cost-effective option (even if this is common practise on many Western subs).
Of course the question is will the DOD do the brave thing cut its losses and drop the LCS program. When you compare the LCS to other commercial off the shelf designs for cost and capability things are frankly absurd!
Just look at the new Turkish Milgem or any of the many MEKO variants and it is clear the USN is getting the short straw! OK the Perry class was rather crude but it was relatively cheap, very capable and performed the tasks the USN needed it to!
Pick an off the shelf design using US weapon systems and get US yards to build with assistance from the design authority! Hmmmm could BAE Systems do a rush job on an Americanised Type 26?
We talked about a PF-variation on the USCG’s NSC (alphabet soup … mmm ;-). Now lets see some possible LCS variants. LMCOs multi-mission Surface Combat Ship (SCS) “is the next generation surface combatant for U.S. Allies.”
Blog: http://defpro.com/news/details/40591
Site: http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/products/multi-mission-combatant.html
PDF: http://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed/data/ms2/documents/SCS_Bifold.pdf

Though the latter are far newer than the former, there appears some similarity with the rockets used on the MLRs on the ZUBR landing craft air cushion. Which may be relevant in as far as role/type is concerned (they are obviously different items and different era).
That is exactly my concern. VLS Shtil is a must if there are no other AAMs, and even that is a imperfect solution considering the MANY gun+missile CIWS solutions available domestically in Russia.
The Ak-630 choice is a mystery.
I am also curious why the ship has RBU, when all the new Russian ships have gone over to Paket. Could remove the RBU and make more space for USKS or Shtil in front of the bridge.
Also worried it won’t have A-190.
Can RPK-8 (anti-submarine rockets) be used in a similar role as UDAV-1M (anti-torpedo rockets)?
The plaque says Admiral Grigorovich.
You’re right, apologies for having been lazy and blindly copying original post caption (which may not have referred to the plaque). 😮
Q: is ‘just’ Shtil + 2x AK630 sufficient AAW capability? (compared to earlier Talwars, which got Kashtan firing units). Or might we see Palma/Palash on these units (eventually)