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:rolleyes: here we go again :rolleyes:

Are there any pics around of them sitting there?

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Thanks guys, that is a long time for boats to be inactive and that’s not good, personally these two boats would be good as training subs only now.

Especially if you consider the climate. Deterioration would have been less in Northern Europe, I think.

Lots of similarity with Type 42 IMHO.

I think that the one with the red nose plug may be a russian 500kg FAE or else a anti-personnel cluster munition.

What are the primary tankers with USN??

Fast Combat Support Ship – AOE
Sacramento AOE 1 – class (only 1 of 4 remaining: CAMDEN AOE 2)
Supply T-AOE 6 – class (with Military Sealift Command: 4 ships)

Fleet Oilers – AO
Henry J. Kaiser T-AO 187 – class (with Military Sealift Command: 16 ships)

In my humble naval ignorance I thought that the bow area could be converted in a Large Hangar for Super Puma sized helos…and a large helipad could be set up there. The mid sections could be converted to personel (marine units) transport while maintaining the container capability abovedeck… Would it make any sense to have large folding floating barges hinged against the sides of the ship in order to simplify loading and unloading while at sea? Away from ports?…

How much more vulnerable is a civilian converted ship when compared to a dedicated military ship buit from scratch for this purpose? Would you care to dwelve on this issue for a while? What exactly is an AOE? MHCs? T-AKE? 😉 In plain English please for the naval-impaired amongst us, please 😉 (ME!)

Regards, Hammer

What you suggestested with the front deck and Puma’s etc is the Arapaho concept.The barges you refer to are called MexeFloats. As for vulnerability, see Falklands war hit of Argentinian Excoet missile on UK’s Atlantic Conveyor (burned out and sank).

MSC/MHC = Minesweeper, Coastal

AD = Destroyer Tenders
AE = Ammunition Ships
AF = Stores Ships
AFS = Combat Stores Ships
AGF = Command Ships
AH = Hospital Ships
AK = Cargo Ships
AKR = Vehicle Cargo Ships
AO = Fleet oilers
AOE = Fast Combat Support Ship
AOR = Fleet Replenishment Oilers
AR = Repair Ships
ARC = Cable Repair Ships
ARS = Rescue & Salvage Ships
AS = Submarine Tenders
ATF = Fleet Ocean Tugs

These are USN designaitons. In all cases the A stands for Auxiliary. Various other letters depend on function of ship. A “T-” in front of a designation indicates that the respective ship is operated by the Military Sealift Command (MSC) and that it is manned by a civilian crew (As opposed to US Navy and military crew).

Full listing here and more detailed descriptions of some types here here.

I have at times wondered about the usefulness of this multiple refueling capability. I mean if you are the commander of a task force are you going to pull more than one ship at a time out of the screen to refuel?

Daniel

Dutch-Spanish design can deliver as follows:
– Position 1 – 4: Heavy loads up to 2 tons, diesel & aircraft fuels, water.
– Position 3 + 4: Light loads only.
– Position 5: Diesel fuel only (used mostly during bad weather refuelling).