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  • in reply to: Landlocked navies #2071155
    Wanshan
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    Lao People’s Navy

    In 1975 the Lao People’s Navy (LPN) was established with the remnants of the Royal Lao Navy. Composed of approximately twenty United States-made river patrol boats and sixteen amphibious landing craft, the navy in mid-1994 had a personnel strength of around 500. As with the air force, Vietnamese advisers helped organize the LPN and trained Laotian cadre in river operations and boat maintenance. The force is responsible for maintaining the security of inland waterways, which includes controlling the movement of resistance forces from their sanctuaries in Thailand, across the Mekong River. In the early 1980s, the navy received six used Soviet Shmel patrol boats and at least twelve more river patrol boats, bringing its total inventory to around thirtyone patrol boats. By mid-1994, the navy had a total of fewer than fifty river patrol boats and continued to provide a marginal level of security for inland waterways.

    in reply to: Kuznetsov CVBG set out for an ocean training campaign #2071238
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    I think they have like 24 of the FLANKER-Ds, give or take a couple.

    What number of naval TU22M operational?

    in reply to: Russian Navy Status #2071306
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    IMHO, “in service” means “not decommissioned” and “not in reserve”. The question is whether “in service” equates to “fully operational” and/or “mission capable”.

    in reply to: What's your favourite ship and why? #2071350
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    I can see that, but I thought they were going with the whole 48 from the start.

    Nope, the 5×8 (with 32 ESSM + 32SM2) has been the intention from the start. It yields an AAW missile load out similar to that of the old Tromp and the Jacob van Heemskerck (L) classes (40 SM1 + 24 Sea Sparrow)

    in reply to: The Chao Phraya in action (Thai navy) #2071352
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    According to SIPRI (1) the Netherlands is supposed to installed 2 LW-08 surveillance radars and 4 STIR FC radars on two Naresuan class. But there is no confirmation on whether those systems were ever installed – SIPRI listed the orders in parens () indicating undetermined delivery.

    So the question on the MK 41 VLS that is seemingly missing from the pictures is very valid. In fact, now that I’ve looked into it, I don’t think they were installed since the Sea Sparrow for the launchers are supposed to be controlled by the STIR FC from Thales and according to SIPRI, even these systems (ordered in 1994), were not confirmed as being installed yet.

    The images posted here clearly show an LW-O8 surveillance radar and one STIR FC installed on the Naresuan class ship. That’s one less STIR than intended (the aft space is used to place a portable satcom antennea while in port) but still, it is almost the complete planned radar fit.

    I wonder if small carriers are cost effective for even Spain or Italy, though these are richer nations with larger budgets.
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    (1)The Veinticinco De Mayo might be anothr case in point. It was laid up through most of its career and was a no show in the Falklands conflict.

    This is not a useful comparison as the Brazilian and Argentinian small carriers were all much pre-owned ships (third-hand) dating back to the end of WWII and so 50 years old and falling apart. The proper comparison would be with the Spanish Principe d’Asturias, the Italian Vittorio Veneto and the British Invincible class.
    Both Spain and Italy are now adding a second flattop to their respective fleets. The UK is looking to replace the Invincible class with 2 much larger vessels. Meanwhile, France has built the Charles de Gaulle and is also seeking to get a second large flattop.
    You should also note that Brazil found it worthwhile to acquire the Foch from France to replace its WWII vintage flattop: they wouldn’t have done that had they not figured it worth the investment.
    India has paid of one WWII vintage small carrier and is soldering on with ex-RN Hermes. However, it will get a much modified Kiev class ship (Gorshkov) and will eventually built its own small flattop (ADS, which can be traced back to french CdG and italian Cavour).

    If the Thai find their sea control ship to expensive to operate, perhaps they can sell it to Australia, as an aviation ship to complement some of the LPH type ships planned there.

    in reply to: China emerges as a maritime power #2071364
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    I had another look at those pics of the loading sequence, and I remain convinced that they could indeed be reloaded at sea. The addtional loading equipment needed may already be aboard and stowed away. If they were intended to be reloaded purely in port, then what would be the point of installing seperate cranes for each VLS bank?

    Well, maybe, having the equipemtn on board might reduce the requirement for some equipment to be present in a port facility thus increasing the number of ports were these ships can reload their SAM magazines?

    in reply to: What's your favourite ship and why? #2071399
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    Interesting to note that the Dutch LCF doesn’t have all of it’s VLS cells fitted yet.

    They are supposed to have 5 x 8 cell Mk 41 (for 32 SM2 plus 32 ESSM). They have space and weight reserved for one additional 8 cell MK 41.

    in reply to: Small navies pic request #2071400
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    Why would they want to sell off their flag ship? This ship is in better condition than those serving with the AdA.

    Really? I though Aradu was by and large inoperable after it had run aground and was damaged?

    “The largest maritime force in West Africa … in 1990. Its balanced fleet of modern warships, auxiliaries, and service craft was acquired from Britain, the Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany), France, Italy, the Netherlands, and the United States. … However, most ships were in disrepair and had not been docked since the early 1980s. “
    http://www.exploitz.com/Nigeria-Navy-cg.php

    “The warship Aradu … became a constant load on shrinking national budget. The regular, annually costs necessary for its maintenance were indicated 1989 by a Nigerian admiral as 50 to 100 millions Naira (at that time about 16 to 32 millions DM). Damage caused by accidents led to additional costs. On the Congo river, the ship ran aground in July 1987; at two other occasions in the same year it came to collisions. From the intensive overhaul of “Aradu”, lasting from 1991 to 1993, only B + V profited. Already during the first test runs after the repair, the ship ran aground again. In the 1995 edition of “Jane’s Fighting Ships” it was reported that the weapon systems were not operational, and that the ship lies most time in the port. In the edition of 1996 followed the message that “Aradu” was deactivated in 1995; its condition was “beyond economical repair”. Just 13 years had passed since the setting into service.”
    http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/ikrg/buch/b_v/kap303.htm

    In 2001, it was reported that tHE NIGERIAN Navy was to send its three Lynx Mk 895 back to Agusta Westland for refitting at Yeovil, Somerset. They have been grounded for over five years, but were due to operate from the MEKO36o-H frigate NNS Aradu. So, it was operational again after all??
    http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news001/afm-may-2001/css/afm-may-2001_12.htm

    “Recently, the Chief of Naval Staff, Admiral Samuel Afolayan, raised an alarm to the effect that the flagship of the Nigerian Navy, which is also its newest, is twenty years old – and that is the NNS Aradu, and that while the navy would need N40billion to maintain its equipment, its yearly allocation is N2billion. “
    http://www.ocnus.net/cgi-bin/exec/view.cgi?archive=51&num=13424&printer=1

    As for the AdA ships, this is from Jane’s:

    “The Argentine fleet is now a much more modern and homogeneous force than it was in 1982 … A medium term programme to refit and upgrade the four Meko 360 frigates has been moving at a slow pace, due to the economic situation, but it is expected to gain momentum under the pressure of Chile’s acquisition of five newer and more modern second hand frigates. The first stage of the Meko 360 modernisation aims to complete development of a locally-designed combat management system, to be installed in those destroyers, which is currently being tested in ARA Hercules. The CMS upgrade will be followed by an update of sensors and weapons.”

    in reply to: DENMARK'S RDN ABSALON-THE WAY FORWARD? #2071403
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    Is anyone thinking the same as me? Where the hell are the crew and the marines going to sleep? Or are they going for the American way, nl. 35 guys in one room?

    The crew will sleep where they always sleep, the marines will be accommodated as needed on the ro/ro ‘flex deck’ (if that deck isn’t parked full with vehicles and equipment, that is)

    in reply to: DENMARK'S RDN ABSALON-THE WAY FORWARD? #2071417
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    Wanshan: Mate thanks for the indepth sketches, but did you have to take up so much bandwidth? Try reducing the size next time mate, think of us poor Dial up users 🙁

    Sorry ’bout that, still getting used to this environment. Editted the post to accommodate.

    http://www.navalhistory.dk/images/Skibene/FlexStoetteskibe/FlexSoesaettes25022004_2a.jpg

    http://www.navalhistory.dk/images/Skibene/FlexStoetteskibe/Layout_stor.gif

    in reply to: The Chao Phraya in action (Thai navy) #2071518
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    Mmm, interesting, could indeed be a modified F25T. Certainly isn’t F22P. The number may be just a yard number.

    in reply to: Small navies pic request #2071525
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    Doing some Google, I found this one:

    Nigeria Meko 360 (F 89 NNS “Aradu”, built by Blohm + Voss, 1982)

    http://www.blohmvoss.de/img/360nn_gr.jpg

    From this nice site: http://www.blohmvoss.com/e/prod/meko_360h1.html

    I wonder if the Nigerians would be interested in selling it to Argentinia and whether the Argentinian would be interest in acquiring it. Any thoughts?

    For Argentina, considering the age and condition of these ships, would it be interesting to upgrade this class e.g. with 1 x 8 cell MK 41 vl for 32 ESSM (like the ANZACS) or 2x 8cell MK41 for 32 ESSM plus 8 ASROC, or with 2x 8 cell Sylver for Aster-15. If the latter option, perhaps the Argentinian Type 42 class ships (should I say ship?) could receive it as well.

    Any chance of surplus RN Type 42s ending up with the Argentine navy?

    in reply to: DENMARK'S RDN ABSALON-THE WAY FORWARD? #2071638
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    http://www.sok.dk/enheder/2004_06_04/01_1.jpg

    Attached an article from Jane’s IDR August 04:
    Flex fleet: Denmark’s new standard warships emerge

    HDMS Absalon, the first of a new generation of surface warships for the Royal Danish Navy, was scheduled to be delivered at the end of July, and construction of the second of five new standard ships is well under way. J. J. Lok examines the build program

    Interesting read!

    in reply to: What's your favourite ship and why? #2071658
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    As for the ships, I love the dutch LCF lines:
    http://img29.exs.cx/img29/4339/DZPinBiscaya.jpg

    Excellent shot!! Wow! Like it is going to park right there on that heli-deck

    in reply to: Seoul selects 2 AWACS bidders #2644030
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    buy chinese.that would make a powerful statment.and about the chinese awac’s.they look liked kind of aperture radar in the nose.a big one.so chinese version probaly can track surface and ground target’s.so 2 plane’s for the price of one’s.

    All IL 76 airframes have that bulge near the chin, it’s nothing special

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