It’ll be all Westminster’s fault, of course 🙂

Well thank you Argonaut. It’s nice to know there’s still some goodwill directed our way!

For No-voting Scots this is a difficult time and some of the comments have certainly been uncalled-for generalisations of the entire population up here. There’s not as many “porkers” as there are piggies-in-the-middle at the moment caught between the aggro of the Yes voters and the nastiness of a section of the population south of the border in particular. This is exactly the divisiveness I was talking about and, whatever the outcome of the vote, that may remain as a legacy of the referendum process; devolution and SNP rule. Many of us Scots immediately knew how we would vote because of the strength of family ties, friendships and a feeling of being British as well as Scottish. Financial concerns or fear for the future didn’t even come into the decision. As to the immigrants, the general feel within the area I’m in is that they will vote No. The Poles in particular learned their history from the previous generation who may have lived in Scotland during, and for a few years after, the war but served in the RAF or British Army. The Asian population run many businesses including wholesale importing for whom currency issues could cause real problems. My concern is more the sections of the population who won’t be voting at all – several thousand Jehovah’s Witnesses for example.

A lot of damage has already been done and certainly if it is a Yes vote then the SNP will need to start building bridges in Scotland’s relationship with the remainder of the UK. My concern is whether they have anyone on their team capable of doing that.

doesn’t Scotland also have Members of Parliament with votes to cast in the Westminster Parliament? What matters do these Scottish Members of the Westminster Parliament get to vote on; for example, do they get to vote on matters of education in English schools (when Scotland has its own education system)?

Yes – in my area we have the SNP’s Roseanna Cunningham in Edinburgh and Labour’s Gordon Banks in Westminster with, I believe, a vote on all matters arising whether directly affecting Scotland or not.

i suppose my interest in the Tiger Moths and things that were around Strathallan in the 60’s is because i gather than some of the airframes (the Tiger Moths and Jackaroo) were very probably cannibalized or used as spares for the flying ‘Tiger’ they had there when the collection came to fruition

Found this in the 1977 edition of Scotland Scanned –

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Though not expecting to find much re. the Tiger Moths, a search through the local papers of the 60s turned up this –

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I suspect the Tigers referred to there were G-ANOS (airworthy when sold to Canada) and G-ANFV but I may be wrong.

Also a little piece about the early DH60 accident –

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Back in 1988 I was handed an envelope by Bill Japp (formerly of 14 Squadron flying Marauders) with the words ” a present for you – I got some of the folks to sign it.” Inside was a programme for the Aircrew Association Reunion
in Dundee celebrating the 50th Anniversary of the Mercury/ Mayo flight from Dundee to South Africa. The signatures – Ly Bennett, Bill Reid and John Cruickshank. So glad to hear Mr Cruickshank is still going strong.

Hi whiteout,

I believe parts from NM140/ G-APGL were used in G-AJVE’s restoration. However I can’t remember and never noted where I got that info from sadly. NM140 was not sold at the auction – the last clipping I have for it indicates that it was to be initially restored to display standard at Strathallan. Both it and G-AYWA were sold later. I have ‘WA as going to Air Atlantique then to the Royal Army Museum in Belgium but Neil Geddes may have had it before that.

N6532/ G-ANTS was sold at the auction – reports on price varies from £2600 to £4700!

Forgot also G-AOEL which went to East Fortune.

Also there was G-ANOS which was sold in Canada in the early 70s in exchange for Bolingbroke 9940.

Not the mud off Skinflats – Longannet is much more prominent on the other bank than that shown in the photo.

Yes quite right Ross. Just checked a photo we took flying over there last year and Longannet definitely would be more prominent. Thanks for the info about the Hurricane.

There were also a number of Tiger Moths (G-AJVE, G-ANPC, G-AOIP, N6532 & NM140) and a Jackaroo (G-AOIT) supposedly owned by the Roberts family and on the estate at Strathallan from the late 1960’s prior to the collection coming to fruition. There is photographic evidence of a couple of these around on the net and i believe they were mostly used for spares. If anyone knows about any of these or their eventual fates, i’d be most interested to know! The details i am recalling are sketchy to say the least and it’s not impossible the Jackaroo, for example, never was at Strathallan, but like i say, any info gratefully recieved!

From an early Scotland Scanned (1974 iirc)-

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From the auction catalogue – possibly the same aircraft? –

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