7 new SSN/SSBN within 5 years plus 16 SSK looks very high estimate.

I dont think even soviet union at its height built at such a rate.

Well pictures of 6-8 newly built or building SSKs are taken in the past year, plus the 8 Kilos, that is already a lot of SSks purchased in the past few years. (8-10 Song/Song A/Song G, 1 Yuan and 8 Kilos)

Jons:
That is why 168 is stealthy, not stealth. It has many RCS reduction features, and from the size of the funnels, IR reduction as well.

Not to mention that the 052Bs were a rush job after the HHQ-9 system was delayed, and they were forced to re-design. If you look at the 052C, it is a lot more stealthy.
Also note the 054 which is designed a little later, and has the best stealth features.

Arthur is right. The letter is not T or J, bu the Chinese letter”丁”, which comes in the sequence of “甲,乙,丙,丁…”, and here means fourth. So the is H-6D, the version with the chin radar and carries missles.

More speculation fresh off from the Chinese BBS!
They are saying that Yantar Shipyard have agian resumed the construction of 2 Ivan Rogovs, idle on the stock from the soviet days for a certain east asian country… Any one have anything on that?

you monkeys are funny, first we have some one trying to claim superior build quality based on a grainy and pixelated picture of a F-7 variant, and now we got people bringing in nuclear reactors, 4x4s, and tanks.. bravo.. what a discussion 😀 may we discuss the quality of Russian food versus “western” food?

Just who the hell are you calling a monkey you hairy bigoted obese oaf? If you don;t know anything STFU and get off the thread and eat your burgers.

Still it raises questions when you get an article from PLA daily about a certain new fighter from a certain country suffering a mid-air engine failure and fire due to imperfect manufacturing of engine baldes, which cracked when the engine only had 40 hours on its clock…