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  • in reply to: Russian Aviation thread, part V #2384674
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    Russia and China plans to co-develop new long-haul wide-body plane and heavy helicopter.
    Russia, China on home stretch in talks on long-range plane project

    Hmm… Hadn´t heard anything of the wide-body cooperation before.
    I assume it is is the ¨Frigate Eko Jet´. Perhaps China decided there was really no economic case for going their own way at this time, and just integrating Western sub-systems to a hum-drum frame has a limit to the benefits achievable re: industrial capacity.

    I assume the heavy helicopter is a modified Mi-26, not a totally new platform?

    EDIT: I reposted this to the Russian Civil Aviation thread, re: the wide-body cooperation…

    in reply to: Russian Civil Aviation #564036
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    in reply to: PAK FA episodeⅩⅧ #2302839
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    The Higher Fuel efficency will only come by less aerodynamic drag only.
    The 117 engines will most likely have a tad higher fuel consumption if you compair it with the AL-31FM1 engines.
    Nothing comes for free.

    I`ve even seen it mooted that the final engine may be going for a variable cycle core, which would indeed be able to offer better efficiencies… Whatever the exact core layout, 117 is obviously already very close to the desired thrust levels… so there is plenty of room for the new engine to meet and exceed thrust parameters while also improving on TOTAL economy (not just on a per-kN basis). Variable cycle would almost certainly return better over-all economy numbers, due to being able to better optimize low-consumption cruise consumption while meeting full-military power performance goals.

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon News & Discussions Thread V #2302844
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    That`s exactly what I`m talking about.
    If Japan can fund it, RR & GE can certainly make room for Japanese participation in development and production. UK would certainly buy it, and I believe several other Euro-F-35 countries had workshare tied into the F136, so if it is `rescued`, they would buy it. Not a cheap proposition, but again, buy the standard of Japanese military procurement it wouldn`t be excessive, and it would be exportable and be a better product: not just throwing money away. Joining development would be real experience not just assembling parts that are already designed and would just be cheaper to buy from the companies already manufacturing them.

    Anyways, I don`t want to drag the thread too far off topic (Eurofighter) :rolleyes:

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon News & Discussions Thread V #2303176
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    No, of course it doesn`t have to do that…
    Spudman just argued that F-35 would achieve `at IOC` `everything that the Eurocanards can now do`.

    ANYWAYS… Back on thread topic…

    IIIIFFFFF… Japan is interested in Eurofighter (I would assume they would also get F-35 at a later date to go along with it)
    what type of participation would be realistic / desirable enough to motivate them to go that route?
    IMMEDIATE development is only half of the picture, I think, a MLU 10 years down the road would be half of what is desirable about EF.
    I could in fact see co-development of both an engine upgrade/re-engine for EF, and buying into the F136 program.
    That doesn`t really seem so much outside of Japanese budget standards, but it DOES seem like it requires some longer-range planning. Hmm…

    in reply to: Russian Space & Missile[ News/Discussion] Part- 4 #1796440
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    in reply to: PAK FA episodeⅩⅧ #2303397
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    The DIRCM is indeed a nice development
    (surprise just because I haven`t seen it confirmed before, it 110% makes sense to include that on a program like this)

    So apparently ground targetting (visual/IR) will only be via external pods?
    The info about a similar external pod for MMW targetting is interesting, but I have to wonder why these functions aren`t being integrated internally… Maybe PAK-FA isn`t quite as big as a Flanker, but there`s still plenty of room, as seen by the internal fuel. It doesn`t seem to make much sense to invoke the need for a clean operational config/wholly internal stores re: fuel and bombs, if that clean config would be dirtied by external targetting pods.

    Ever since the mystery about the shoulder `missile bays`, I wondered if they may also be able to contain targetting `pods` as removal cargoes. Certainly if the ejection mechanism is removable I could see them fitting in those external fairing (using every cm^3) possibly with some functions `off-loaded` to within the plane itself (not in the `pod`). Or possibly some of these `pods` could be mounted within the fairings, but expand beyond them, having their own over-lapping fairing to conceal the larger volume effectively…???

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon News & Discussions Thread V #2304283
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    Yeah, I thought similarly (actual European funding of JSF development),
    but I think he meant more in the sense of European plans to PURCHASE JSF aircraft…
    Obviously nobody in Europe is developing/procuring ANOTHER, NEW manned platform in the next 10 years,
    and if they had decided not to participate in F-35 at all, that perhaps may not have been the case.
    (probably there wasn`t the funding anyways, but having the F-35 available makes another program a non-starter)
    For the forseeable future, F-35 procurement (besides other platforms like Rafale and Gripen/NG) will be fighting for funds needed to shore up and expand needed capabilities in other areas… UAV development being a major one.

    EVENTUALLY, I certainly see a new European manned fighter… OR TWO.
    The opposite approach to the ¨3 in 1¨ F-35 approach is developing systems which can be simultaneously used by different planes… Extending to engines as well as electronics, I can see that approach also fitting with the political realities of the industrial base in different countries (while benefitting from maximal development sharing and commonalities). No country really needs top-end air dominance fighters for all missions (F-22s doing air policing in US… :rolleyes:) and even the `heavy` military countries like France and UK could well benefit from procuring a fleet of single-engined fighters for purposes where high-end capabilities aren`t needed. `Optionally manned` may or may not happen with that, but having a cockpit is certainly irreplaceable for a platform that is to be capable of full-spectrum operations… Including with GPS/communications non-functional. Rules of Engagement just don`t go away.

    But that doesn`t need to be imagined until 2020 or so… 🙂

    in reply to: Russian Space & Missile[ News/Discussion] Part- 4 #1796442
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    – It haves not electronic components for its guidance system.

    Goddam commie monkeys pulling levers… It´s the monkey gap! The monkey gap, dammit!!! :rolleyes:

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon News & Discussions Thread V #2308507
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    I imagine Rolls Royce is looking at quite a few cooperation scenarios with Japanese industry right now.

    If Japan chooses to go with Typhoon, Japanese involvement with a new engine variant, for more thrust/economy, along with TVC would definitely seem in the cards. (I have the impression that TVC itself is basically designed, but the whole flight-control system would need to be re-worked to integrate it)

    If/when Japan chooses F-35, given that they are this late to the party, they would normally not be able to participate in development as much… But RR/GE have this wonderful little engine that just needs more funding and customers, and they could almost certainly involve Japanese industry there. I don`t know if increased thrust would need a new intake (airflow), but increased economy itself would be great, and this would be `real` work, not `make-work` for Japanese industry to get involved with.

    Personally, if I assume that the Japanese government is somehow suddenly able to rationally formulate and act upon a strategy meeting both deployment and industrial concerns, acquiring BOTH Typhoon and a F136-engined F-35 seems just about ideal for them at this point in time. Participating in Typhoon development, most importantly it`s MLU development 8 years or so down the line, will keep their skills fresh, and industry acquainted with how to work in a functioning project (if Eurofighter can be held as an example of that… barely) rather than the wierdo land of $200mil F-16 hack-jobs. That experience, along with joining the F136, would put Japan in the best position to possibly participate in a US NGAD project in the mid-2020`s (besides that demonstrating their independence itself gives them more bargaining power if the US beleives they may have other options besides buying what the US says).

    I haven`t generally felt that Eurofighter was destined to win in a number of other global tenders (India, Brazil) but in this case I think they have good chances, and hope they make the best of it for all parties involved. Given that standards for Japanese military procurement (e.g. F-2), development participation in two such programs would hardly be as extravagant (cost-wise) in comparison to what they´re used to, and it would hold the promise of being cost-effective if Japanese contributions are adopted by a wider user-base (Eurofighter countires, F-35 countries who want F136).

    in reply to: Hot Dog Indian AF News and Discussion Part 17 #2308921
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    HAL is caught in the middle. IAF would have gone by the minimum necessary spares angle as on the brochures (which never works out) and then asked HAL to boost serviceability. As always the truth is in the middle. If HAL alone were at fault, enough leaks would have appeared before hand itself.

    Of course… But the point is that it IS HAl alone at fault for kicking out BAe people who just happen to notice the situation… That is concealing the reality of the situation from all relevant branches of Indian government and military… Who does that help, besides specific beaurocrats? It definitely HURTS things like actually achieving good production rates, if it is preventing actual problems from being dealt with and removing compentent people from the factory.

    in reply to: Hot Dog Indian AF News and Discussion Part 17 #2314848
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    Hasn´t there been talk of inducting more MMRCA, and also quicker, possibly outside of HAL production, as well as for nuclear strike role?

    in reply to: PAK FA episodeⅩⅧ #2317618
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    Anyway, if you consider that WITHOUT any blocker device, only a fraction of the compressor WOULD have line-of-sight thru the intake, that makes me consider the ´internally bifurcated serpentine blocker´ can have a very assymetric design, since it only has to block that small fraction… the rest can have clearer air-flow path. I don´t know if that would cause further problems than it solves (re: assymetric air-flow at compressor face), but it seems like at least a possibility… Or the ´serpentine blocker´ redundantly blocks 100% of the intake channel, and the engine performs fine, regardless…

    in reply to: Air Ops Over Libya (Part Deux) #2320047
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    Tiger is not yet being armed with missiles, while Gazelles carry HOT, i.e. if they want to use missiles, Gazelle it must be.

    France already decided to integrate Hellfire to Tiger, but the process doesn´t seem complete at this time (or in inventory at any rate).
    Spain uses the fiber guided Spike made by the Israelis for their Tigers, but given France decided not to go that route,
    they don´t have compatable launchers or training, which also goes for the PARS missile chosen by Germany.

    in reply to: Russian Aviation thread, part V #2320058
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    http://russianplanes.net/images/to54000/053325.jpg
    Mi-26t2.

    Is that the upgrade IAF is considering?

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