This story says the debris is concentrated (presumably via the sonar imagery they have), which gives good hope the black-box can be found.
I am curious where they found it, in relation to previous searches, and how they missed it up till now.
– Typical recce run lasts 1 hour above Libya, Rafale in A2A conf in escort. If needed, a second 1 hour run is possible after an aerial refuel.
Are the majority of recce and CAS runs really continuing to pull ´top cover´ A2A escorts?
Perhaps F1 isn´t, but it seems that Rafales, M2Ks, F-16s, Tornados in strike configuration are all more than capable of taking out any Libyan planes that they encounter, just with minimal A2A suite, e.g. wingtip IR missiles. Especially when it seems like there really just isn´t any Libyan aircraft trying to challenge them… I mean, obviously you have some countries supplying jets that they are ONLY willing to task for no-fly zone maintenance, but I was surprised to read that an F1 took a RAFALE as A2A escort… It seems like a Rafale in CAS configuration, with designation for the F1, should more than be able to provide ´escort´ with just 2 wingtip MICAs if necessary… :confused:
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I don’t think even pre-Fukushima that ATD-X or whatever you want to call it was in a position to compete against F-35. At one point in time, there was a question of whether to join the Eurofighter consortium, but that window of opportunity has passed IMHO.
Prospects for what to do with domestic industry is now outside the immediate scope, which will be filled with F-35. ‘Talk’ of co-funding/developing NGAD with the US has floated around, and while that would provide Japan with a solid answer to PAK-FA and whatever China does, the idea that the US would do so when even F-22 was unexportable at the end of it’s production run, along with Japan’s demonstrated history of susceptability to espionage, suggests that may not be quite realistic. …Never say never, of course.
But it’s fair to say that Fukushima will have huge implications, hard to say what exactly…
The political fall-out has really not had a chance to come together yet.
Note: Curiously, the leader of Japan’s SDP, formerly part of the DPJ majority government until quitting over Okinawa, and strongly anti-militarist, has the family name of Fukushima.
Could be mooted for hypersonic cruise missile, UAV as you suggest, or the next manned bomber…
Probably any and all of these…
I would say the only verifiably stupid thing is that article…
Even accepting it’s claims at face value, what it actually claims is just that negotiations are taking longer than expected because off possible tie-ins to a mooted MMRCA win. Actually nothing about arm-twisting or extortion, though the TONE of the writer’s words leads an average reader to that conclusion.
If India can get a better price, why not negotiate that over a few more weeks? Obviously Dassault and Thales feel there would be synergies between the M2K upgrade and armament and a Rafale purchase (MICA purchases or licenced assembly would be the minimum), and those synergies would need to be clarified and quantified if they are to be included in a contract. Talking about licenced MICA assembly requires a non-trivial look at how much that would cost to actually achieve, i.e. if it even makes sense vs. purchasing them off the shelf. If IAF would prefer to throw away possible synergies they can tell Dassault they aren’t interested and will take the non-synergistic price regardless of MMRCA outcome.
Just check his last sentence…
If the IAF believes the Mirage upgrade deal isn’t worth it why have they praised the outcome of negotiations and Dassault/Thales’s JV with Indian contractors reducing the price, and in fact seem happy that they are apparently going thru with the deal? He doesn’t even mention that, nor that the ‘upgrade’ includes advanced munitions (MICA) which the upgrade he compares it to does not. It’s all a bunch of muddled writing, meant to lead an unwitting reader from one ill-informed opinion (Mirage upgrade is bad) to another (dastardly French pulling one over India). Of course the subtext here is that this stuff is all EXPENSIVE, and instead of recognizing the simple fact that India is a poor country and France is a rich one whose products unavoidably tend to cost alot, it’s needlessly twisted into ‘Insidious French Plotting’.
HINT:If you’re interested in writing an incisive, informative article, you don’t start out with “Insidious French attempts”, ESPECIALLY when you can’t follow thru with even CLAIMS of specific unethical if not illegal actions. I would say that yellow journalism of this caliber pretty much DOESN’T qualify for receiving the benefit of doubt.
not what was reported in media around here (france), it was said that in the night from 21 to 22 march gaddafi’s residence was bombed
Shock! Mass media glossing over details!
The actual details of that attack HAVE been published by many sources, and have been reported to this thread as well.
Strikes were against a claimed Command and Control facility, with photos suggesting a ´penetrating´ strike against underground facilities.
Not Qadafi´s mansion. They just both happen to be inside the same wall.
I have to say, there´s certainly PLENTY of grounds for criticism over moral consistency here (when Qadafi was no worse than many ´Western – friendly´ un-democratic regimes, not to mention the question of what countries are qualified to take a moral stand against crimes against civilians), but running around saying there is no difference between surgical SEAD strikes and total war against infrastructure is not only absurd, it cheapens the lives of those who HAVE died from such total war… Such as in Serbia and Iraq.
Just because you doubt the intentions of the intervening powers or don´t believe intervening in sovereign states is worth it in the long run, doesn´t mean Qadafi´s (mercurial) narrative should be accepted at face value. In fact, his attacks were not a response to armed insurrection trying to kill or exile him, they were a response to peaceful protests, and armed insurrection only happened after Qadafi´s brutal crackdown in an attempt at self-defense.
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Simplistic conspiracy theories of ´king of the hill´ games over oil/gas don´t really make much sense here… Libya was completely in the pocket of the West until recently, in fact there was very little response to Qadafi´s initial repression. IMHO, the intervention can only be seen in the context of the protests movements and revolutions across the ENTIRE arab world, along with the GCC´s ongoing antipathy towards Qadafi. This is a Bosnia move to simultaneously re-establish a ´moral highground´, and try and maneuver unstable situations back into the GCC-Zionist order.
Guess which EU country will take the hardest hits when houndreds of thousands of newly liberated Libyans (and African migrants) use their freedom to “flee” across the pond and seek political asylum?
Ummm… Italy and Greece if Libyans for some reason would need to flee their own country after succeeding in their revolution? Seriously, I don´t see this as that big a problem, oil is still in production, and if the new government needs a little help re-starting ´normalcy´, I´m pretty sure the intervening powers could find something to help, it´s certainly cheaper than either the war itself or saturation border monitoring or dealing with people who make it across. If it isn´t clear, helping the rebels means the intervening powers have been able to promote those leaders who they prefer (eg. ex-Qadafi ministers who are friendly with GCC countries) and can likely expect a good relationship with the new government.
If anything, NOT intervening and leaving Qadafi free reign to massacre the resistance would be most likely to lead to a wave of refugees trying to escape.
According to Le Figaro’s sources, Russia has pushed through an important change in the intergovernmental agreement, replacing French “assistance” in technology transfer to Russia with a “guarantee” of technology transfer.
Clearly, french government can’t guarantee what private companies will have to deliver …. hence the term assistance.
The French state has a majority stake in DCNS, though this is set to be reduced if Thales (with sub-majority state share) takes DCNS over. I don`t see a problem here.
I`m baffled by your sentiment, MadRat, advocating non-intervention is one thing, but your other comments seem way off base.
Firstly, while there is certainly `separatist` aspects to Libyan history, protests were a nation-wide phenomenon, `independence` was not the aim of the protests… Though that was one of the many points Qadaffi ad-libbed in his various speeches (between warning of al-Qaeda plots, drugged Nescafe, warning of Israeli plots, threatening to ally with al-Qaeda, favorably comparing his `just´ response to Israeli attack on Gaza, etc).
Secondly, it was quite clear that protestors did not want Western intervention from the very beginning, so your complaint there just seems bizarre. Plenty of people died without ever asking for or expecting foreign militaries to save them. Certainly, NOW, some actors are welcoming a no-fly zone, etc, but this was not the case from the beginning, and some of those actors (fmr. Minister of Justice for Qadafi) can hardly be seen as a central element of the protest movement, rather as opportunists who switched side when convenient and are now acting as channels for Saudi/GCC interests.
Operating deep in enemy territory, and all the other benefits with having a smaller RCS.
There’s a reason the USN was looking at a stealthy next generation jammer over the current, already very potent F-18G growlers.
Do you mean the JSF based jammer meant to be the follow on to the Super Hornet mounted NGJ?
There`s also the point that USN is going to eventually phase out their SH fleet, and mounting the jammer on their LEAST stealthy platform by then (F35) makes sense because of fleet commonality. By the time the JSF-based follow on to the SH-based NGJ is fielded, USN will likely be flying the NGAD… Even if they don`t NEED the JSF grade stealth (since this is hugely an emitting platform), they might as well use it since otherwise each carrier will have to support yet another platform. Not to mention continuing to use SH would likely require re-integrating the latest and greatest self-protection, comms, and other sub-systems, which are all intergrated `for free` via JSF`s use as strike fighter.
That said, I think JSF-NGJ is interesting because the lift-fan volume doesn`t need to be turned over to fuel as in A/C, but could instead hold electronics/ batteries/ etc to support an electronic mission – just needing relatively more re-fueling with the lost fuel. Probably no development budget for that, but it seems ideal to carry jetissonable fuel stores externally and have electronics on-board, rather than the other way around.
I don`t understand all the talk of running a conventional SEAD campaign as `necessary` to enforce a no-fly zone.
Of course, that makes sense if they want to use a broad range of platforms (i.e. non-stealth) to engage ground targets that fall within the ´vague remit` of the UNSC resolution (to stop attacks against civilians), but for a no-fly zone I can`t see why a squadron of USAF F-22 couldn`t easily shoot-down (unmolested by Libyan SAMs) anything flying, leaving Qaddafi with no assets which COULD violate a no-fly-zone.
If UAE and Qatar join the air campaign it will be even more of a joke.
Gulf monarchies fighting to protect democratic demonstrators against their repressive government!
I haven`t heard much from the US, EU or GCC about reports of nerve gas being used against protestors by Saleh…
MMRCA or whatever program would be a good start.
insisting on whoever comes with an offer to include package to integrate the standard type instead offering another bvr.
If India has the source code and tech transfer, they can do it themselves.
That`s rather the point of getting this stuff, so you aren`t dependent on manufacturer`s `preferred` armament.
Any info on the situation with the helmet/ HMD?
I had read of problems before, but just read that another supplier is being considered?
Who could that be? BAE?
5. Commonality of engines with the LCA.
6. A viable option for the IN.
5. Commonality of engines with temporary imported Tejas Mk.2 engines.
Final Mk.2 engines are based on Snecma core, and have been stated to be usable with Rafale if that is selected.
6. I don´t think IN is really all that relevant here for ANY of the contenders… Except MiG (but I don´t think it will help them).
IN already has MiG-29Ks. IN is on-board AMCA, which will be it´s future carrier fighter.
If AMCA can´t be developed fast enough, it just doesn´t make all that much sense to induct a completely new platform to then immediately phase it out…
Much more likely that a small batch of ´Super´ MiG-35++´s would be ordered (or simply a MLU) to carry over until AMCA is ready, and possibly for the smaller carriers even after AMCA is inducted.
Anyhow, the rest of your points are spot on, Super Hornet certainly can offer good value for money.
Not going to be cheaper than Gripen, but it likewise offers more capacities.
I´m guessing Rafale wins this in the end though.
I understand India has it´s own data-link which will be integrated on whichever platform wins MMRCA…
Does this data-link also cover guidance updates for missiles, or is it only for other planes / AWACS?
If it does include missile updates within it´s scope, is it capable of 2-way communications with the missile, e.g. as Meteor is capable of?