And as it turned out, the reason why France & Germany did not approve is because they were (in viloation of MULTIPLE UN SANCTIONS) supplying arms & other santioned materials to Iraq…

Don’t forget the other buisness deals and debts that prevented French involvment plus Chiracs well known and fully documented admiration of the cruel and brutal leader Saddam.

If the work on UAVs keeps up to its present pace then the ‘new’ manned fighters now on the drawing board may be obsolete much faster than any previous generation.

Its going to be many many decades till UCAVs match the A-A abilities of modern 4th and 5th gen fighters though, don’t expect to have that capability within the next decade or two.

Non the less.. not many diesel subs scored simulated hits against battlegroup carrier and Colins did.. though so did Gotland.

Not being picky but you really need to read into how those navel excercises were carried out and what they are mean to achieve, its way to complex a subject to go into any depth here but there is info on the net that shows that whilst the carrier simulated hits do happen it is a far different process then under real world conditions for a great number of reasons. I’m not trying to take away any ‘victories’ from your team but am merely pointing out its alot different then commonly thought.

Sure technology will evolve. The problem is that Typhoon is behind the eight ball and as counters to stealth evolve, stealth will also evolve. Technology advances for both sides.

I’d agree with that.

NOT US, not the Germans and NOT a LOT of European people BTW even Britain went to war with a majority of its folks against it.

Garbage to be polite (and I am actually trying to be here believe it or not)
Let me explain. Whilst there where alot of very vocal anti war and anti Iraq war protesters the majority of people were in favour. Remember its not always those who shout the loudest that have the majority.
An example would be the office I worked in at the time had three extremely vocal anti war movement people in it, whilst the other 18 people were for the war but didn’t shout there mouth off about it and let the anti war bunch have thier say (which was annoyingly frequent). It really is tripe to say they the public did not approve as the silent majority did. I hope i have managed to make that clear without seeming rude!

If I had the choice between this and the F-22, (I refuse to call it the “Raptor”, stupid frikin name, named after a dinosaur, stupid things they were

Whilst not quite up to Jurasic Park the movie levels of lethality from what i’ve read Raptors were pretty amazing hunters, something about teamwork and stealthyness in the way they hunted, quite an apt name I think even though I do think dinosaurs are pretty unexciting in general. perhaps they were running out of birds of prey to name it after, F-22 Bald Eagle or F-22 Sparrow Hawk don’t sound to clever…

No.

Well, you sure did go to some real trouble there with that answer, must have taken ages! 🙂

Actually I’m pretty sure the only MiG-25 we’ve gotten our hands on was due to digging around in Saddam’s backyard…literally 😀

Do you know what happened to those sand covered 25’s the OZ forces uncovered? Thinking about it the last I ever heard of them was when they were dug up, nothing else since at all about them.