The source is proving annoying elusive

How conveniant… I think we can put this fairy tale to rest with that.

Name how ANY Russian Aircraft manufacturer has a 5th Generation aircraft that has achieved ANYTHING like this and then come back and state HOW exactly this phantom aircraft “beats” F-35…

I believe the MiG 5th gen fighter did some high speed taxi trails a few years back, does that count? Oh and the FSW flanker did some pretty airshow routines.

And before everyone jumps on the band wagon – no the F/A-18E/F has not replaced the Intruder or its capabilities!

No, the F-18 has become a far better more well rounded and capable aircraft, one that is not simply limited to just moving mud like the Intruder.

It even amazes me how people bigs up non stealth designs like the Typhoon and Rafale as better in A2A than the F 35 😡

Its highly comical isn’t it, the ultimate in fanboy mentality.

The Gripen? How does a country of 9 million “design” their own fighter? It’s called money and a developed society. Unless there’s some racist white supremacist thinking in there, China isn’t developed compared to Sweden. By that logic, China can argue the West couldn’t think beyond chucking spears at one another if it weren’t for China. Every modern weapon today has its roots in China which you stole of course. I love how Lou Dobbs claims that China stole secrets from the US that Americans haven’t even developed yet. How can you steal something that doesn’t exist? We know that’s just to stake claim on anything that China develops in the future.

What an odd little rant.

I certainly don’t think that your presence can bring anything readable or useful to this debate.

Much like your analysis (to use the term very very loosely) of Beesley’s speech then.

I have already analyzed Beesley’s speech in depth on this forum and clearly pointed out at logical contradictions in his own words compared to other ‘trustwothy’ claims about F-22 and F-35. I won’t do that here again, those who want will search for it.

You didn’t analyze it at all, you simply got out what you wanted to and ignored anything positive. For someone that loves to bleat and wail about trolls your playing the troll pretty well right here right now in this thread.

I find those youtube clips distastefull, i have served in the Army and seen what kind of damage weapons like these can do..

Mod, plz remove that video from this tread.

Thanks.

I can only hope that post was some sort of a joke.
It would be like myself or others saying “I’ve been in the airforce and seen what these aircraft we talk about and post pictures on this forum can do, please mods remove the whole damn forum as its distastefull”